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Romney Tells Donors He Is Considering 2016 White House Bid
The Wall Street Journal ^ | 1/09/2015 | Patrick O’Connor And

Posted on 01/09/2015 4:07:09 PM PST by presidio9

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To: Windflier

Windflier, I voted for Romney last time because I believed — and still do — that anyone but Obama would have been a better President. I believed Romney was actually eligible and didn’t have as his top goal running America into the ground. I do not regret my vote.

This time, I’m not going to do that. Done with the GOPe. See tagline. The speaker vote finished me.


341 posted on 01/09/2015 10:40:21 PM PST by Yaelle (No Cruz? Then "I'm Ready for Hillary; What Difference Does It Make?")
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To: Yaelle

Welcome to the hated. Glad to have you. Past is past, but the support that Mitt got led directly to that speaker vote because they took entirely the message from it they wanted. Not the one anyone intended. So they did it again.


342 posted on 01/09/2015 10:46:32 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Landru/Romney 2016: "Are you Of the Body, Brother?")
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To: Yaelle
I voted for Romney last time because I believed — and still do — that anyone but Obama would have been a better President.

I understand that you believe, Yaelle, but there isn't a scintilla of evidence to support your faith in Romney. Not one. Review his record in office and try to make the case (to yourself) that, based upon that record, and only that record, that he would have done anything different than Obama.

I don't think you can. There isn't anything in his record to support the contention that he would have supported measures and policies that significantly vary from the radical left. Nothing at all.

Now, perhaps he wouldn't have made the same sort of senseless gaffes and unforced errors Obama has. Perhaps. He's a different kind of stupid, but not all that different overall.

Remember he's notorious for his flip-flopping. He would have had us facepalming day and night with that alone. His chronic political correctness would have quickly made him a pawn of the liberal press and left-wing public opinion. We conservatives and patriots would have been long forgotten by Inauguration Day.

The bulls in Congress would have had him eating out of their hands by now, to the immense detriment of the country. Romney would already be repeating scenes like the one where he's signing the bill as Ted Kennedy looks on. He'd be rubber stamping crushing spending bills and failing to do a thing to roll back Obamacare.

He'd have been coerced to push for most of the same idiotic liberal agenda that's strangling the country as we speak, and wouldn't be anywhere close to addressing the bloat in the regulatory agencies or the federal leviathan that's killing America.

I guess he would have made some of us feel better because he'd show up to Veteran's Day celebrations, etc., instead of palming that responsibility off on his VP. Whoopee doo.

And where would the mood of the average Republican voter be right now? Disintegrated into dust, that's what. We would have never seen the landslide election of 2014 if Romney were in office. The base would be too demoralized or tuned out to fight.

I'm sorry, but I don't see that Romney would have been an improvement over Obama at all.

343 posted on 01/09/2015 11:01:02 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Wasn’t me. I never read it.

I could'a swore it was you that introduced me to that book. Good lord man, you have got to read it. It's required reading on the level of 'Atlas Shrugged'.

I'll see if I still have it in PDF format. If so, I'll wire it to ya.

You'll thank me.

344 posted on 01/09/2015 11:03:52 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Nope. I’m positive it wasn’t me. I’m aware of it sure, but never read it. The only political books I have recd here are 48 laws, 1984, Brave New World and maybe The Prince to better grasp 48 Laws. Together they are a complete lesson in modern America.

And I believe it to the point that any conservative does his country a true disservice by not having them in their head.


345 posted on 01/09/2015 11:08:13 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Landru/Romney 2016: "Are you Of the Body, Brother?")
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To: Windflier

Actually let me restate that better. 1984 and BNW must be read. 48 Laws must be ‘absorbed’ and ‘understood’. And it isn’t light reading. But it is required reading. Perhaps plural.


346 posted on 01/09/2015 11:13:53 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Landru/Romney 2016: "Are you Of the Body, Brother?")
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To: Omniscient Certitude

I agree. Preach it preacher! Amen!!!


347 posted on 01/09/2015 11:17:37 PM PST by rodeo-mamma
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To: flaglady47

Don’t bother pointing out to Diogenesis that she is a liar. She active she wants Hillary to be President because she lies just as good as Hillary. Bet she is even a secret supporter of Hillary and member of the NOW gang. This is what you are dealing with - student of Saul Alinsky - all the way and using rules for radicals. That’s why Diogenese lies so easily and ALL the TIME!!!


348 posted on 01/09/2015 11:25:31 PM PST by rodeo-mamma
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To: Norm Lenhart
I’m aware of it sure, but never read it.

I just found the free e-book, "Unintended Consequences" online. Here's the URL. It's in PDF format.

Unintended Consequences (free e-book)

It's over 700 pages, so bookmark it. Trust me, this is a page turner that you will not want to put down.

349 posted on 01/09/2015 11:25:43 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Cool. I shall endeavor to persevere ;)


350 posted on 01/09/2015 11:28:20 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Landru/Romney 2016: "Are you Of the Body, Brother?")
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To: Norm Lenhart
48 Laws must be ‘absorbed’ and ‘understood’. And it isn’t light reading. But it is required reading.

You're right that it's not light reading. I remember starting in on it when you first turned me on to it, and having to quit when it took too much of my attention to fully absorb.

It's the sort of book that I have to read when I've got quality time off from work.

351 posted on 01/09/2015 11:28:34 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: rodeo-mamma

He rode lightning. Guess why? His sermon.


352 posted on 01/09/2015 11:30:16 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Landru/Romney 2016: "Are you Of the Body, Brother?")
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To: Windflier

Yup. Its not a cover to cover book. There is way too much to grasp...really grasp. And without grasping, there is no point in reading it at all. Way to deep.

Thats the best way really. One bite at a time and chew. Then come back when time and a clear head are ready for more.


353 posted on 01/09/2015 11:33:46 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Landru/Romney 2016: "Are you Of the Body, Brother?")
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To: Norm Lenhart

354 posted on 01/09/2015 11:35:58 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

One down, dozens to go.


355 posted on 01/09/2015 11:37:20 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Landru/Romney 2016: "Are you Of the Body, Brother?")
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To: Norm Lenhart
One bite at a time and chew. Then come back when time and a clear head are ready for more.

Since my teen years, I've always been the type who would get so engrossed in any book that interests me, that I would consume the whole thing without getting up from the table.

That's not to say I never took breaks, but only so much as the body (or life) required.

48 Laws is different. It's the type of book that requires so much concentration that I dare not open it unless I've cleared my schedule first. Even then, I'll probably have to re-read chapters and even paragraphs to truly digest it.

356 posted on 01/09/2015 11:44:07 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

I did. I Had to. I’m your style of reader. I used to do a paperback 3-400 pager in a day easy. Often. But I couldnt with 48. Had to reread a couple times and some areas several times. Had to fight it just like Inferno and Paradise Lost.

But it was a mission and it was worth it. Changed me. Things that used to baffle me now seem drooling obvious. It’s not a Bible. It’s not LRon crap. It’s what it is. Condensed knowledge that people are afraid of.

Because if you try living by that book, you will be the ultimate arsehole. But if you understand it, you understand the ‘why’ of the arsehole and how they manipulate for power.


357 posted on 01/09/2015 11:50:56 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Landru/Romney 2016: "Are you Of the Body, Brother?")
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To: rodeo-mamma; DIOGENESE
Don’t bother pointing out to Diogenesis that she is a liar. She active she wants Hillary to be President because she lies just as good as Hillary. Bet she is even a secret supporter of Hillary and member of the NOW gang. This is what you are dealing with - student of Saul Alinsky - all the way and using rules for radicals. That’s why Diogenese lies so easily and ALL the TIME!!!

Are you nuts? You want to go that far to defend scum like Mitt Romney?

358 posted on 01/10/2015 1:22:24 AM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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To: rodeo-mamma
I agree. Preach it preacher! Amen!!!

You are too late to the thread, your Alinsky companion Omniscient Certitude, has already been zotted.

359 posted on 01/10/2015 1:25:49 AM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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To: Norm Lenhart; Tau Food; Graybeard; Windflier; All
Norm, I love ya, guy, and we stand on the same side of the river when it comes to rejecting leftist Republicans.

But on the contrary, "this thread alone" confirms and increases my data of probably twice as many folks on OUR side of the river than there are on the side that says, "desperate times call for desperate measures such as voting for leftist Republicans -- they aren't as bad as leftist Democrats."

In real numbers, in real people, it is very probable that there are QUITE a lot more self-defined "conservatives" who hold with us in rejecting functional-leftist Republicans like Romney even in the general elections, and actually a very SMALL number of self-defined conservatives and Republicans who fall for the fallacy of voting "against" by voting for functional leftists.

FR has a small number, comparatively speaking, of "conservatives" who defend, or tolerate, or even who promote (like a certain flag woman who is in her late 50s! {^), functional Democrat Republicans.

FR has a much larger number of conservatives who may not post remotely as frequently, but when they do, they make it clear that they stand with you, me, Tau Food, Graybeard 58, and other kindred spirits. I know for certain it does right now, and I had reason to believe it did in 2012 as well. In any case, real voters behaved at the polls in 2012 as indicated on the FR by August 2012 that they would -- that is, reject leftist Republicans even at the cost of a Democrat victory -- and Romney lost.

Just because a small handful yelps and squawks and makes enough noise to sound like two or three times their numbers, the fact remains -- they are a small handful that only looks big.

For some reason, you look at this thread and are discouraged. I look at this thread and am heartened.

360 posted on 01/10/2015 2:40:19 AM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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