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To: cripplecreek

I think many FReepers are third party folks to start with, and they want Republican conservatives to abandon the battle (within the GOP) in the hope of bolstering their own marginal parties. That said, there are other Republicans on the site who are fed up. I understand the anger, but I don’t understand how we make things better by walking away. The party is ours to claim if we stay unified.

I also don’t understand the mentality of many who write off otherwise good representatives (who have proven conservative track records) over this one vote. Have they not read some of the explanations? We know which ones are RINOs who support the party over principle every time, but what about many others who are pretty darned solid but simply didn’t vote with us and have—I think—pretty good explanations for why they did so.


137 posted on 01/08/2015 11:10:37 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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To: CitizenUSA
I understand the anger, but I don’t understand how we make things better by walking away.

If enough Conservative changed party registration to deny the GOP majority status they could force the GOP into a coalition arrangement. Then and only then will conservatives have any power to change things.

Fifty Five Years as a registered Republican now registered Independent.

146 posted on 01/08/2015 11:42:07 AM PST by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: CitizenUSA

The GOP hate you with a passion, they hate your values, they mock your religion, they work with the MSM/Dems to defeat your Conservative candidates and Conservative legislation.

You have already been kicked out, your Conservative officeholders have already been marginalized, your Party has already walked away from you.


148 posted on 01/08/2015 11:52:42 AM PST by roses of sharon ("Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise." Luke 23:43)
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To: CitizenUSA
I also don’t understand the mentality of many who write off otherwise good representatives (who have proven conservative track records) over this one vote.

Because John Boehner will set the agenda for what bills see the light of day and what bills won't. We can't and we won't have change with him calling those shots in the house of Reps. That is TOP OF THE LIST and comes before any other issue because no other issues will ever be addressed. Bohner is Pelosi in a suit is that clear enough to justify the outrage? There will be no change because K-Street and USCOC set congressional agenda now.

This isn't simply about party infighting it's about the very survival of the United States as we once knew it to be. The GOP Congress just got voted in and gave a huge middle finger to Conservatism. Sound familiar? We've had a couple of post Reagan administration GOP POTUS do the same. For that? Well we have Obama and all the abuses of powers those presidents and a Two House GOP Majority gave him. Mad? Hell Yes!!! I'm madder than hell.

The GOP is a corporate Party. Corps can take bankruptcy, shaft the taxpayers, and CEO's still receive millions of dollars. For what? If you or I get seriously injured or face catastrophic illness we the private sector citizens thanks to the new unBiblical Bankruptcy reform laws will pay till we die. Who is the number own owner of Congress? That's an easy one indeed. The Insurers Lobby. The most corrupt and unethical business that exist in this nation. Now do you think Boehner is going to de-fund Obamacare? Sometimes people have to be reminded of the GOP's unfaithfulness and sellouts. They are Ho's same as their friends across the aisle only a Ho is more honest about who they are and what they do. They make no pretenses as what they are.

157 posted on 01/08/2015 4:20:21 PM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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