[Finny]

Less mysterious now -- thanks for clearing it up.

I STILL MISS QUIX. He was angry and out of line, but he was a barking dog with zero bite. You have other false-friend enemies on FR who have, can, and will do FAR more damage, FAR more to hinder the cause of liberty and freedom, driving away many otherwise great FReepers with libelous insults and causing division among Americans who should be allies.

Oh well.

[humblegunner]

false-friend enemies on FR who have, can, and will do FAR more damage, FAR more to hinder the cause of liberty and freedom, driving away many otherwise great FReepers with libelous insults

Really? Like who, for example?

[MHGinTN]

There is an interesting thought excursion regarding the basis of right and wrong for minds which have no spirit aware of good and evil. Can a civilization be constructed upon ONLY a sense of right and wrong (what works, what doesn't) with no spirit to inveigle the soul, the behavior mechanism? Well, yes it can.

Would such a civilization be able to achieve highly technological interface with the Universe? Well, yes it could.

Now, what would beings who start with a spirit component be able to achieve technologically? Probably the same levels of tech as the previous civilization. IF you believe in God The Creator of this Universe, is there demarcation line where the technology becomes a hindrance to the advance of the spiritual side of the second type of beings?

Well, if The Creator has a plan away from which the technology may take the second type of beings, then 'things' would happen to thwart too much technological advance. But that would not be the problem with the former type of beings ,,, until their technologies couled interfere with the development of the second type of beings.

And that, in essence is what Quix brought to the discussions, albeit his notion is that all ETs are demonic in origins.