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The Trillion Dollar F-35 Won't Even Be Able to Shoot Its Gun Until 2019
Gizmodo ^ | 12/31/2014 | Adam Clark Estes

Posted on 12/31/2014 7:19:35 PM PST by thetallguy24

At this point, it's not even funny how much the Pentagon has screwed up the development of its new stealth fighter jet, the F-35. But the latest report that the jet's 25mm cannon won't be operational until 2019 at the earliest is just laughable. Even more laughable is that it probably doesn't even need the gun to begin with.

Unnamed Air Force officials revealed the bad news in a Daily Beast story about the F-35. Apparently the software that will power the four-barreled rotary cannon on the Air Force version of the jet, the F-35A, won't be ready for at least four more years. The Navy and Marine Corps version use a different cannon, but it'll also be years before the software's ready for those guns.

The real kicker here is that the gun is probably just dead weight (read: a waste of taxpayer dollars) anyways. The F-35A's cannon can fire 3,300 rounds per minute but can only hold 180 rounds. "I would be lying if I said there exists any plausible tactical air-to-air scenario where the F-35 will need to employ the gun," one senior Air Force official told the Daily Beast. "Personally, I just don't see it ever happening and think they should have saved the weight [by getting rid of the gun altogether]."

The jet, which is also known as the Joint Strike Fighter, is already the most expensive weapon in American history. It's expected to cost the Pentagon well over $1 trillion over the next 50 years. And little hiccups like this only add more taxpayer dollars to that price tag. [Daily Beast]


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: airforce; f35; marines; military; navy
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I would be lying if I said there exists any plausible tactical air-to-air scenario where the F-35 will need to employ the gun,"

Ummmm....didn't they say something similar about the F-4 Phantom? Funny how history repeats.

1 posted on 12/31/2014 7:19:36 PM PST by thetallguy24
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To: thetallguy24

At tho rate, by the time they actually get it battle-ready, it’s going to be an antique.


2 posted on 12/31/2014 7:22:34 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: thetallguy24

“I would be lying if I said there exists any plausible tactical air-to-air scenario where the F-35 will need to employ the gun,”

They’ll never learn. This thing is becoming a bridge to unmanned drones.


3 posted on 12/31/2014 7:22:49 PM PST by headstamp 2
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To: thetallguy24

seems like the F22 worked just fine but we had to scrap that... so we could have MRAPs... which we’re giving away to local police departments now.


4 posted on 12/31/2014 7:25:57 PM PST by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a politically correct way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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Ummmm....didn't they say something similar about the F-4 Phantom? Funny how history repeats.

YESIR DEED DEE!

5 posted on 12/31/2014 7:26:54 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else need s said?)
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To: thetallguy24

I remember the 20mm brass from a Phantom’s strafing run nearly beaning us during one CAS mission in Vietnam.

Gun’s-R-Good!


6 posted on 12/31/2014 7:34:35 PM PST by BwanaNdege
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To: thetallguy24

So 3 seconds of ammo...


7 posted on 12/31/2014 7:34:40 PM PST by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: thetallguy24; All
one word: McNamara
that said, another (pointy-headed) moron from
the (so important/self described) Ivy League.


8 posted on 12/31/2014 7:40:14 PM PST by skinkinthegrass ("Bathhouse" E'Bola/0'Boehmer/0'McConnell; all STINK and their best friends are flies. d8^)
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To: thetallguy24

OK, work with me on this one. A little sliding door in the canopy so the pilot can draw his sidearm, stick it out, and blow away the enemy aircraft with blazing six-gun action. I’ll bet it would work in the movies.


9 posted on 12/31/2014 7:41:35 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: thetallguy24
“software?” to “power” a 4=barrel Gatling gun? You mean like the ones which have been mounted in US aircraft and anti-aircraft since the sixties?

Someone needs to stop trying to re-invent the wheel every time they turn around.

10 posted on 12/31/2014 7:42:26 PM PST by VietVet (I am old enough to know who I am and what I believe, and I 'm not inclined to apologize for any of)
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It carries such little ammo that each shot needs to be a hit, hence intense software for aiming.


11 posted on 12/31/2014 7:43:35 PM PST by Monty22002
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To: VietVet

To paraphrase a famous sports phrase...

players play
coaches coach
engineers engineer
and software expands to fill available computer space


12 posted on 12/31/2014 7:44:12 PM PST by nascarnation (....)
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To: nascarnation

The software drives the hardware


13 posted on 12/31/2014 7:46:43 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Billthedrill
How about a turret and a short second gunner like the Cobra Rattler?


14 posted on 12/31/2014 7:47:03 PM PST by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: nascarnation

And spending grows to exceed revenue.


15 posted on 12/31/2014 7:47:25 PM PST by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: RC one

The F22 will probably be the pentacle of fighter aircraft in future history, that breathed air and burned jet-a.

The f35, etc., are all down hill after.

The next big fighter will be drone and probably not propulsed by burned fossil fuels.


16 posted on 12/31/2014 7:47:26 PM PST by Aqua225 (Realist)
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To: BwanaNdege

I’ve wondered about that. I have some empty 30mm from an A-10 Warthog and those things are heavy enough to sting, plus they come out in big quantities.


17 posted on 12/31/2014 7:48:04 PM PST by eartrumpet
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To: wally_bert

Heck yeah! Uh...that thing is pointed straight at the pilot’s head. Note to self: design firing cutout. Or hire lots of pilots.


18 posted on 12/31/2014 7:48:45 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Aqua225

It just burns my a55.


19 posted on 12/31/2014 7:49:31 PM PST by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a politically correct way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: eartrumpet

Nothing like a little depleted uranium to rattle the tank hull...


20 posted on 12/31/2014 7:50:18 PM PST by nascarnation (....)
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