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Gun owners fear Maryland cops target them for traffic stops
The Washington Times ^ | December 30, 2014 | Kelly Riddell

Posted on 12/30/2014 10:13:46 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

A year ago this New Year’s Eve, John Filippidis of Florida was driving south with his family on Interstate 95 when the Maryland Transportation Authority Police pulled over his black Ford Expedition and proceeded to raid it while his twins, wife and daughter looked on — separated in the back seats of different police cruisers.

The officers were searching for Mr. Filippidis‘ Florida-licensed, palm-size Kel-Tec .38 semi-automatic handgun, which he left at home locked in his safe. (Maryland does not recognize handgun permits issued by other states.)

When the search turned up nothing, Mr. Filippidis, 51, was allowed to go and was issued only a speeding warning.

The incident gained national attention. Mr. Filippidis went on multiple radio programs and described in detail how scared and outraged he and his family were. He wondered: How did the police know he was licensed for concealed carry, and what right did they have to search through his personal items on the side of the busy interstate filled with holiday travelers on that 10-degree day?

“My wife’s hysterical, shaking and crying,” Mr. Filippidis recalled in an interview with The Washington Times. “I don’t have a criminal record. I own a business. I’m a family man, and I tried to explain that to [the officer]. But he had a bad attitude, didn’t want to hear my story. He just wanted to find that gun and take me away from my family. That was his goal, but he couldn’t do it, because I didn’t have a gun, like I told him.”

Mr. Filippidis‘ case earned the support of Second Amendment advocates and subsequent apologies from the MDTA. But an internal police review concluded his stop and search were lawful and did not violate police protocols.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; brianfrosh; cannabis; democrats; donutwatch; freakstate; guncontrol; gunowners; larryhogan; marijuana; maryland; mdta; police; pot; rkba; wod
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To: advertising guy
AG, may I refer you to post # 46?

It certainly contains the information you are jonesing for. Inexplicably, it leaves out my personal favorite cartridge, the Albanian 11.6 X 41.5.

121 posted on 12/31/2014 8:47:04 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (The fate of the Republic rests in the hands of the '15 -16 Congress. God help us.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

I cleared it up post 80 something

380 not 308

Smartphone oops
But you said nuthin bout me tapes backards humor


122 posted on 12/31/2014 8:54:29 AM PST by advertising guy ( Muslims, another white meat)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

There are police on Obama’s side - and police not on Obama’s side... Is this Maryland police department’s getting lots of military surplus... I’d bet on it.


123 posted on 12/31/2014 8:56:59 AM PST by GOPJ (White people in black neighborhoods should expect to be the victims of black crime.- Flaherty)
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To: advertising guy

WOW! That thing must have one heck of a kick!


124 posted on 12/31/2014 9:13:28 AM PST by catman67 ( 30 gauge?)
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To: catman67

Was an oops post cleared up twice

380 not 308

Smartphone late nite oops post


125 posted on 12/31/2014 9:15:34 AM PST by advertising guy ( Muslims, another white meat)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

How fast was the officer going if the driver was indeed “tailgating” the officer at 72mph in a 55mph zone?

Unless you advocate one law for he, another for thee, either both were at fault for speeding, or the officer was lying about the circumstances.


126 posted on 12/31/2014 9:51:26 AM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: PeaRidge

He can ask for your drivers license, if you are driving. Other than that, you do not have to answer anything.

The video referred to earlier sounds like a good explanation of your rights.


127 posted on 12/31/2014 9:57:49 AM PST by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: Altariel

I dunno.

The article said the police claimed that the driver was speeding and tailgating the officer, but it did not say the officer claimed the driver was doing both simultaneously.


128 posted on 12/31/2014 10:04:00 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: PeaRidge; FreedomPoster

Don’t Talk to Police
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

Reposting this from above.


129 posted on 12/31/2014 10:04:13 AM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: TangoLimaSierra

Good one! My bad. I guess I have seen the “arm bears” too many times.


130 posted on 12/31/2014 10:44:54 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Simultaneity is implied in the article, and it is well known that government employees regularly turn a blind eye when other government employees speed But that is perfectly acceptable to those who ascribe to the "one law for he, another for thee" theory of "law enforcement". To those of us who do not, it is yet more evidence of condemnable State corruption.
131 posted on 12/31/2014 10:54:10 AM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: advertising guy
......nuthin bout me tapes backards humor....

I never jokes around on serious threads concerning ballistics, religion, cops, women, and especially woman cops ... but your humor isn't all that bad ...shows promise for a kid your age.

132 posted on 12/31/2014 10:59:24 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (The fate of the Republic rests in the hands of the '15 -16 Congress. God help us.)
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To: vette6387

the answer I was told in my SC CCW carry permit class, was that GA used to just hand out permits with little training, almost freely as they put it

the class I went through in SC was very thorough, it was my 3rd class, I did my own in CT with an old friend who just made me pay, we shot some weapons, he signed me off, he knew I was a Marine

my second class was with my girlfriend, to get her permit, I took the class a second time, made it serious for her, so it was like a refresher

SC was an 8 hour class, serious, testing verbal, written and shooting accuracy, I thought it was great

they explained that GA’s standards were so poor, SC stopped honoring them, so GA stopped honoring SC

that is what they tell SC residents in the classes, not sure how true, but that is how I was told 4 years ago


133 posted on 12/31/2014 11:01:15 AM PST by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for)
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To: RaceBannon

“....hey explained that GA’s standards were so poor, SC stopped honoring them, so GA stopped honoring SC...”

This is why making this a state issue is problematic in my view. The Second Amendment is a Core Federal Right. Therefore, it should be regarded as such by ALL of the States. What states like Maryland and New Jersey ( the two states are in a constant battle to see which one is our Nation’s toilet) are doing is unlawful abuse of this country’s citizens. The Constitution also is supposed to insure that we have freedom to move about the whole country with out fear of arrest.


134 posted on 12/31/2014 12:14:04 PM PST by vette6387
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To: vette6387

I find it hard to believe a GA redneck is any better or worse than a SC redneck with a weapon
I came from CT, I am an amateur compared to you guys, but an expert back home :)

Down here, you grow up with guns all the time, up there, you have to whisper and hush about it


135 posted on 12/31/2014 12:27:47 PM PST by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Apparently the citizen did not have any gun with him.

But if he had, and it was securely in the trunk, then he would have been protected when traveling interstate by Federal statute, no matter what Maryland’s laws are.

As for SC, they issue carry permits only to SC residents or property-owners. They do not honor other state’s carry permits.

NJ and MD, and parts of southeastern NY, and MA, do not in practice issue carry permits. I know NJ best: they have a procedure on the books, but in practice do not issue carry permits to ordinary citizens. They require that you have evidence ahead of time that you (as an individual) are under some direct threat, specific threat. Then they may take up to six months to issue a permit. They evade the 2nd Amendment, and ignore recent Federal court rulings on this issue, and get away with it because those rulings were not made in the Federal District to which NJ belongs.

If the Federal courts do not get throughly packed with 0’s appointees, it is possible that the courts will eventually rule against NJ.

NJ is generally a lawless state, anyway: it is ruled by its own politicized courts, who make up their own rules by fiat. We need a new state constitution here in the Garden State! But that would probably be of no use, because the state is virtually broke, and would not have the money to print copies of the new constitution.


136 posted on 12/31/2014 12:38:21 PM PST by docbnj
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To: Jeff Chandler

LOL I wish...


137 posted on 12/31/2014 12:46:50 PM PST by Don W (When blacks riot, neighborhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn))
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To: Altariel

There is no way to know. The article does not imply anything one way or the other.

And it doesn’t matter. The officer manufactured the probable cause of suspicion of marijuana possession so he could search the vehicle. Once the officer saw the driver’s CHL, he was willing to make whatever allegations he needed to make in order to justify his stop and search.


138 posted on 12/31/2014 1:28:03 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: docbnj

South Carolina Reciprocity
RECIPROCITY

Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Idaho (Enhanced Only), Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Missouri, New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Texas, Tennessee, Virginia, West Virginia, and Wyoming.

Residents of reciprocal states who hold permits issued by their states of residence may carry concealed firearms in South Carolina, but must abide by the restrictions in the South Carolina CWP law. For that reason, out of state residents of reciprocal states should familiarize themselves with restricted carry locations and other provisions of South Carolina law posted on this website. South Carolina permittees who carry firearms in reciprocal states are likewise responsible for familiarizing themselves with the applicable laws and regulations of the reciprocal state. Web sites of those states may be accessed by selecting the desired state name listed above.

http://www.sled.sc.gov/Reciprocity1.aspx


139 posted on 12/31/2014 1:31:22 PM PST by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for)
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To: wastoute
“I think the founders DID issue a National carry permit. It says right to keep AND BEAR arms shall not be infringed.”

ABSOLUTELY TRUE! So where have the wheels come off? Answer, the SCOTUS ( and their lower echelon “buddies”), coupled with some out of control state legislatures. I am beginning to think that a CCW just makes one a convenient target for the government. At the end of the day if you are forced to use a gun for self protection, the fact that you do or don't have a permit will likely be the least of your worries.

140 posted on 12/31/2014 3:20:30 PM PST by vette6387
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