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1 posted on 12/28/2014 7:45:33 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

What prosecutor is a Saint? Interested in logical Justice? Not a ‘Rat?


2 posted on 12/28/2014 7:47:00 PM PST by Paladin2
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Philadelphia drops ... to prevent any court from ruling just seizing people’s property is unconstitutional —

So we can’t take a chance that forfeiture will be declared unconstitutional for all the rest of us.

Is that how this pans out?????


3 posted on 12/28/2014 7:51:52 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (/s /s /s /s /s, my replies are "liberally" sprinkled with them behind every word and letter.!)
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They can actually pass the ancient right of kings under the Common Law since there is precedent known as Prima Noctum – first night. The governor, mayor, county freeholder, whoever, could “legally” claim the right to spend the first night in bed with any women getting married in their district.

Lovely background for stories, but no such law ever existed, at least not in Christian Europe.

4 posted on 12/28/2014 7:55:01 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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So they backed off, simply so that they can continue doing the same thing to others.

Very instructive.


6 posted on 12/28/2014 7:58:16 PM PST by gaijin
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To: SeekAndFind

excellent, excellent, thank you! The New Yorker, mirabile
dicu had an article about this about a year ago; it was
acceptable but nowhere near as good as this.


7 posted on 12/28/2014 7:58:33 PM PST by cycjec
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I’m not justifying the seizure of their property but the “relative” mentioned in the article was their son and he was dealing heroin.

Why leave out these facts in the article by playing semantic games?


8 posted on 12/28/2014 7:58:53 PM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Here’s an actual INSTRUCTOR, giddily telling the who auditorium exactly how to steal the property of the voters:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjmJXZICNDk

The very end is equally amazing; the lecturer says he’s HAPPY for pot legalization, as people are bound to start selling it out of their houses, thereby making their HOMES into easy targets for seizure.

“Then we’ll sell their homes and LIVE LIKE CZARS, maybe..!!”

That’s an exact quote.


10 posted on 12/28/2014 8:01:35 PM PST by gaijin
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So this is literally “Highway Robbery” By the state.....

Sounds like JUST LIKE the Sheriff of Nottingham pulled the same sort of crap.


13 posted on 12/28/2014 8:20:26 PM PST by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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“This is why we will see a rise in third-party activity for 2016.”

Party?! Third, fourth, fifth party, it won’t matter. Politics is not the solution.


16 posted on 12/28/2014 8:37:02 PM PST by ryan71 (The Partisans)
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NO.
“the final stage of the collapse of the Roman Empire” was the establishment’s subsidy of the media.
The same ‘stage’ we have today in America.

The ‘right’ news isn’t free.


20 posted on 12/28/2014 8:48:43 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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The bottom line regardless of the problems with this particular story, is that “civil asset forfeiture” is being abused all across this country. The reason we’re hearing more and more about it is because it’s being abused. There are bureaucrats who have made careers and names for themselves taking property of people under this stupid concept that should not have lost their property under asset forfeiture. Most people cannot fight it. It’s like trying to get your name off the no-fly list.


25 posted on 12/28/2014 8:58:21 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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Bump


31 posted on 12/28/2014 9:06:40 PM PST by 4Liberty (Prejudice and generalizations. That's how Collectivists roll......)
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We don’t need a third(3rd) party.. WE NEED a second(2nd) party..


34 posted on 12/28/2014 11:08:33 PM PST by hosepipe (" This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole.. ")
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Wait until the healthcare industrial government complex gets involved by raising prices and making healthcare insurance secondaries impossible for the elderly or anyone to afford:

One thing that seems clear about the current health care debacle is the control the health care industrial complex and the government will have over my assets. And there seems to be no way around it. Tell me if I am wrong to believe this. It will help me sleep at night.

I am being told that I must have Medicare and an insurance overlay or pay penalties. I pay extra for the overlay. If for some reason I cannot pay for the overlay, and require care I will be put on Medicaid, and given care and my assets forfeited to the state/healthcare complex.

Now I understand that this has been a way to manage folks with small assets, in our community giving a house to the town for taxes and bills has been common for years. Our towns use to let the elderly live in their houses until after the death, then foreclose.

However the current combination of insurers, healthcare entities, and government can provide a very different picture. The government has opened a window to previously untapped assets, older people who have previously been able to cover their healthcare insurance, keep their assets intact and provide a boost for the next generation.

It seems to me that all the government/insurer axis needs to do is change the insurance price point depending on the financial needs of the government, insurer or healthcare institution. Less people able to afford, more assets turned over.

The other part, is how prices in healthcare do not reflect reality but instead, a very unrealistic and non market based assumption.

Now I am not opposed to paying for my own healthcare, but I damned sure refuse to be subjected to or pay unrealistic, manipulated and dictated prices, which affects everything from equipment, prescriptions and services.

Both these issues combine to provide a perfect storm of assets to be sucked out of the middle class. I would really like your opinion here. You have a reasoned free market perspective. You are also a good writer, rare in economics. Thank you for your time.

JGoodman: You have provided a very good description of both problems.

ME: And my attorney tells me that there is no way to shield my assets from the government/medical/industrial complex. Very painful to hear.

Some consumers take themselves out of the market with healthcare medical bill sharing, I could do that and if they will have me, that will probably be my choice. I am not sure that the complex’s reach won’t make that a futile gesture though.

Thank you for confirming what I have tried to talk to people about to no avail.

Interesting that my acquaintance who has lives a rather dissolute life, who never paid off anything including her student loans, owes tons on her house, with a low payment, will be able to keep her house, and I would lose mine. Painful.


40 posted on 12/29/2014 5:51:57 AM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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