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To: faithhopecharity

When the government is paying the healthcare bill, the individual behavior of each patient has an impact on every taxpayer. If they want free choice on how to live their lives, they shouldn’t support socialized medicine.

When you’re not paying the bills, the people who are get a say-so.


5 posted on 12/26/2014 1:02:32 AM PST by ArmstedFragg (Hoaxey Dopey Changey)
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To: ArmstedFragg

Yes. That’s precisely the Fire problem with commiecare. “They” get to dictate YOUR care, or lack of care as they wish.


6 posted on 12/26/2014 1:06:16 AM PST by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: ArmstedFragg

Fire problem = core problem


7 posted on 12/26/2014 1:07:23 AM PST by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: ArmstedFragg
When the government is paying the healthcare bill, the individual behavior of each patient has an impact on every taxpayer.

As they say in Louisiana, "Bingeaux."

10 posted on 12/26/2014 1:09:36 AM PST by Slings and Arrows ("I Only Love You When I'm Drunk" - http://youtu.be/uT-tCbvfDUg)
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To: ArmstedFragg
When the government is paying the healthcare bill, the individual behavior of each patient has an impact on every taxpayer. If they want free choice on how to live their lives, they shouldn’t support socialized medicine.

When you’re not paying the bills, the people who are get a say-so.

Same applies to Americans.

16 posted on 12/26/2014 3:30:17 AM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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To: ArmstedFragg

Perfectly stated.
As I tell my college students,
I am not a social investment calculation, I am a person. An individual.
Those are my health care dollars & earnings, I alone will allocate them as I see fit.
That if how a Free Society works.


18 posted on 12/26/2014 3:43:19 AM PST by 4Liberty (Prejudice and generalizations. That's how Collectivists roll......)
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To: ArmstedFragg

Yep. A while back, Kirsten Powers was complaining about the cost of her new Obamacare plan. And then proceeded to say that she shouldn’t have to pay the expenses that overweight people incur....they should be required to lose their excess weight. Those who support Socialized Medicine are fine with the Government forcing lifestyle changes on those the Government decides are using ‘entirely too much if our health care resources’. I wonder how Powers will feel when she gets older and she is denied care simply due to her age. Oh wait, she’s a Big Lib; she probably won’t be denied care if the Marxists are still in charge.


20 posted on 12/26/2014 5:25:06 AM PST by originalbuckeye (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
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To: ArmstedFragg

Americans who served their country in the Military and are now retired, their secondary health care plan to Medicare is Tricare Life for Ret. Military over 65. They control every aspect of your treatments, down to where you can get your daily med scripts. DOD MANDATED as of 4/14. Medicare has been controlling how long a patient can go to Physio and stay in the hospital for a illness for a decade or more.

WE paid for Medicare, WE paid for Tricare Life with 20 yrs of under paid service in the Military.

Both are RATIONED health care. And we can’t even take out a third policy to cover what they won’t cover. No dental, no vision, unless it is a disease, no hearing aids even if you are hard of hearing. A Co-Pay on such items would be welcome. Not asking for Total FREE, just a co-pay arrangement that private ins allows. 0 gutted Medicare, and congress gutted Tricare Life to pay for 0’care.

We don’t support socialized medicine, but ended up on it, just because we are seniors and hubby is 74 Ret. SCPO with 20 yrs of service.


26 posted on 12/26/2014 6:03:23 AM PST by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: ArmstedFragg

Excellent point, and one of the strongest arguments against socialized medicine in a free society. Once “the people” (aka government) have skin in the game. They are going to start demanding and exerting controls to limit their exposure. There goes your freedoms.


30 posted on 12/26/2014 6:42:46 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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