Posted on 12/18/2014 2:20:21 PM PST by balch3
OKLAHOMA CITY After legalizing the recreational use of marijuana, Colorado is at the heart of a lawsuit.
The Denver Post is reporting that Nebraska and Oklahoma have filed a lawsuit with the U.S. Supreme Court, asking the justices to strike down Colorados legalization laws.
The Colorado attorney generals office says the lawsuit alleges that Colorados Amendment 64 and its implementing legislation regarding marijuana is unconstitutional under the Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution.
Because neighboring states have expressed concern about Colorado-grown marijuana coming into their states, we are not entirely surprised by this action, said Colorado Attorney General John Suthers. However, it appears the plaintiffs primary grievance stems from non-enforcement of federal laws regarding marijuana, as opposed to choices made by the voters of Colorado. We believe this suit is without merit and we will vigorously defend against it in the U.S. Supreme Court.
Click here to read a copy of the lawsuit.
Oklahoma Attorney General Scott Pruitt issued the following statement about the lawsuit:
Fundamentally, Oklahoma and states surrounding Colorado are being impacted by Colorados decision to legalize and promote the commercialization of marijuana which has injured Oklahomas ability to enforce our states policies against marijuana. Federal law classifies marijuana as an illegal drug. The health and safety risks posed by marijuana, especially to children and teens, are well documented. The illegal products being distributed in Colorado are being trafficked across state lines thereby injuring neighboring states like Oklahoma and Nebraska. As the states chief legal officer, the attorney generals office is taking this step to protect the health and safety of Oklahomans.
Oh, but your are ignoring the benefits of our enlightened war on (some) drugs, buddy. The need to stamp out the use of non-approved intoxicants has given us the blessings of “no-knock search warrants”, “asset forfeiture”, a prison population second to none, and state corrections officers unions wielding immense power. What you call “wasting taxpayer money” is actually a shrewd investment in establishing a complete police state. Get with the program, man!
Sinful fallen mankind tends in the same demonic direction.
The thing that can and will break through this is not “politics” but personal spiritual devotion to God. This isn’t a “religion.” It goes places that “religion” never can.
This bears repeating until people wake up:
” We are reaching, or have reached the point, where it is literally impossible for any person not to break some law. The law of the land now makes every single person a criminal, usually multiple times per day.”
In some industries, you can be fined, prevented from participation in that industry, or prohibited for engaging in certain segment of that industry simply based upon the OPINION of a federal regulator, a State Regulator, or an industry association regulator. If they “don’t like it”, you get sanctioned under the most relevant rule they can find and if you want to fight it, that will cost more money than you could earn in years of that business. You still have the record of the investigation and potential sanction out there for all the world to see while the process drags on, eating away your livelihood and reputation.
When everything becomes forbidden, nothing will be actually illegal, but we will all be eligible for prison or personal ruin at the whim of an agency employee. What a wonderful world it is...
The AKSARBEN Kettle is calling the Pot black. That’s funny — and it reminds me, how’s Ol’ Larry King’s singing career progressing these days?
Legislatures that live in glass houses...
Hi Marie, please hold off on the dramatic actions for now. And, yes (from the other thread), feel free to PM me tomorrow or whenever.
Unfortunately there is no real relief for chronic pain. There are methods to lower the reference level, but nothing works like opiates in the short term.
Opiates are not free, in as much as there is the lowered cognitive function, and increased dose to the same effect over time.
Acupuncture helps some, but it’s only as good as the person administering it, and it can be hit or miss in effectiveness.
Ganga is not an analgesic by any stretch of the imagination. It can give you “time out of mind” but it will not lower the pain level and depending on “you” can cause an increase in pain perception during the “anxiety” phase of the effects.
I don’t view marijuana as anything more than a “recreational” intoxicant. There is no redeeming medical value in my opinion.
Good luck with you pain problems, I know that people get desperate for relief.
Nope. FedGov doesn't have a constitutional right to make drug laws in the first place, therefore it can never actually be constitutional for something involving them to be "federal jurisdiction."
Exactly. The War on (Some) Drugs is the epitome of the “one size fits all” mentality that law enforcement has increasingly come to adopt. People smoking medmari for glaucoma are the same as crackheads breaking into apartments to feed their habit. There’s no common sense, just the overwhelming need to increasingly “nail” more “users” and “pushers” to justify the ever-increasing budget requests for more equipment to “fight the war on drugs.”
And then you have all the rest that comes with it too. Warrantless no-knock midnight raids to “keep people from flushing it down the toilet” (really, to intimidate the citizenry). Flash bang grenades burning off toddlers’ faces. Random illegal searches of automobiles. Property forfeiture of anyone with cash, regardless of whether they’re even CHARGED, much less convicted of a crime.
Thanks a lot, all you people who are still “drug warriors” out there. I’d rather have the Constitution, even if it means people get to take drugs without some nanny stater standing over them with the truncheon of the police.
Ultimate irony? Alcohol causes far more damage to society and to individual lives than does illegal drugs. But the same drug warriors don’t want to outlaw alcohol again, since many FReepers like their beer and wine. They ban what they don’t use, but don’t you dare touch what they personally like.
How about we just stop banning any of it, unless individual states choose to do so, and we start reining the power of the state back in?
As their are millions of pain sufferers worldwide using cannabis for effective and safe pain relief, forget those here with an agenda who know nothing about medical cannabis. “I got a feeling it doesn’t work” is horseshit and clear they could care less about your suffering.
FECO, Full Extract Cannabis Oil is the most effective for pain relief but try first an edible made from a strain of cannabis grown for it’s pain relieving properties and you will be convinced.
It is clear you don’t know what you are talking about in regard to cannabis and pain, you are giving people bad advise based on ignorance.
Go talk to the cancer patients and chronic pain sufferers who use cannabis for relief from pain and stop spreading your ignorance.
I simply don’t buy the chronic pain and ganga argument.
There is no support for hallucinogens as analgesics.
I live with chronic pain every day. Some days are nominally better than others. But at no time has THC helped reduce the level of pain, EVER!
I consider it a recreational drug like alcohol with no redeeming medicinal value. You are entitled to your opinion, and I am entitled to mine. I speak from first hand experience with excruciating at times chronic pain with no end in sight and THC is no magic elixir as you argue.
Just because coca and opium are naturally derived, does not make THC anything more than a recreational time out of mind drug. Get over it.
I am not giving my opinion but stated a medical fact. There are millions of people effectively using cannabis for relief of pain.
The fact you have smoked some pot and you did not get pain relief suggests you did not use the proper strain of cannabis. THC is not the only cannabinoid in cannabis and if you do the research you will quickly learn what type of cannabis you should try for pain relief. Also smoking cannabis is not the most effective way to use cannabis medically.
Stop telling people because you smoked pot and it did not help you with pain, it does not work to relieve pain. You are misinformed and spreading that misinformation to people who are suffering and can benefit from this medicine.
Solution is a doctor for the hundreds affected with terminal illness, and a psych exam and mandatory treatment for the millions of addicts whose lives are ruined by their addictions.
Legalized drugs are brought to you by the same government that is now bringing you death panels instead of health care and a widely expanded abortion industry. A socialistic purge of a kinder gentler form. Why pay for gas chambers to remove “undesirable people”, when you can get them to pay you?
I know, you can quit any time you want, you just don’t want... Meanwhile your life clock keeps ticking silently, as you wear out your couch.
Seriously, would like to know.
If it can be identified, then extract and administer in pill form.
There are a few cannabinoids that relieve pain and some that reduce inflammation (a cause of pain) others that shrink tumors that cause pain, etc.
Cannabis has been synthesized it is does not work as well as the real thing.
Medicine originally came from plants and still does, why do some people think chemical medicine is better and safer? It is not. 200,000 in US die each year from adverse reactions to pharmaceutical drugs, and that does not include overdosing.
The most effective form of cannabis as medicine is oil extract, one to three drops a day the size of a grain of uncooked rice is the normal dosage. I suppose you could let the drops dry out and call it a “pill”. Headshake .... such fear over a plant, BTW you can use cannabis medically without the psychoactive effects of THC, sort of like eating a grape or putting some oregano on your food.
If you want to know why cannabis works medically, research Endocannabinoids which are produced by our bodies and have nothing to do with Cannabinoids which are found in the cannabis plant. Both Encannabinoids and Cannabinoids fit into receptors throughout our bodies called CB1 and CB2 receptors and our immune system. Science may help wash away ignorance and fear.
Why not simply honor the Constitution and have the feds butt out of state matters?
I’m just now really digging into the research on this and one of the ways that it helps is with reducing inflammation. For me, this would be about 50% of the battle. (That would be CBT)
The other way that it helps is by reducing muscle spasms. For me, that would be another 25% of the battle.
Go here: http://azmarijuana.com/arizona-medical-marijuana-news/tips-arizona-medical-marijuana-card/
And check out the graph about half way down the page.
Part of the problem is that the feds has marijuana listed as a ‘schedule 1’ drug. That means that there’s no medical benefit and so research isn’t allowed.
If I could reduce my inflammation and muscle spasms by 75%, I could get off of narcotics completely.
My body is so ripped up by the steroids that I can’t even get them any more. (Bone loss, loss of immunity) The doctor is terrified to give me another shot. My surgeon flat-out said that I cannot have steroid injections in my spine because of all of the hardware that I have in there.
I take so much aspirin and ibuprophen that my doctors don’t know how I even have a stomach left. My liver is damaged from the daily Tylenol.
Modern medicine has nothing left to offer me.
In researching the benefits of marijuana, I’ve found that the best course of action for someone like me is cannabis oil used as a suppository. You get less of a ‘high’ (which many people find a nightmare to deal with and, I know that I’d be one of them) but all of the other benefits of the medication. From what I’ve read, it takes about 3 weeks for the benefits to kick in.
One of the problems with the WOD is that it doesn’t allow for the research that you’re interested in. Yet, scientists are breaking the law all over the world to get us what we’ve got.
I’m sorry that you’re going through much pain and have had some extensive experiences with pain myself. It’s doubtful that marijuana will soothe your pain much. I’ve seen heavy smokers suffering from pain.
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