Posted on 12/18/2014 2:20:21 PM PST by balch3
OKLAHOMA CITY After legalizing the recreational use of marijuana, Colorado is at the heart of a lawsuit.
The Denver Post is reporting that Nebraska and Oklahoma have filed a lawsuit with the U.S. Supreme Court, asking the justices to strike down Colorados legalization laws.
The Colorado attorney generals office says the lawsuit alleges that Colorados Amendment 64 and its implementing legislation regarding marijuana is unconstitutional under the Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution.
Because neighboring states have expressed concern about Colorado-grown marijuana coming into their states, we are not entirely surprised by this action, said Colorado Attorney General John Suthers. However, it appears the plaintiffs primary grievance stems from non-enforcement of federal laws regarding marijuana, as opposed to choices made by the voters of Colorado. We believe this suit is without merit and we will vigorously defend against it in the U.S. Supreme Court.
Click here to read a copy of the lawsuit.
Oklahoma Attorney General Scott Pruitt issued the following statement about the lawsuit:
Fundamentally, Oklahoma and states surrounding Colorado are being impacted by Colorados decision to legalize and promote the commercialization of marijuana which has injured Oklahomas ability to enforce our states policies against marijuana. Federal law classifies marijuana as an illegal drug. The health and safety risks posed by marijuana, especially to children and teens, are well documented. The illegal products being distributed in Colorado are being trafficked across state lines thereby injuring neighboring states like Oklahoma and Nebraska. As the states chief legal officer, the attorney generals office is taking this step to protect the health and safety of Oklahomans.
Spot on. Colorado is under no obligation to enforce federal law; if Oklahoma and Nebraska have a beef it's with the feds - so sue them.
Like I said, I’m not anti. I stand corrected, I had bad info. Thank you
How do you violate Federal law with impunity? I say we not pay taxes or register for the draft or commit wire fraud? Who has the right to violate federal statutes and who doesn’t? This is madness.
Yes, there is another part of the Constitution this trashes: the 2nd Amendment.
This is PRECISELY Bloomberg’s argument. The looney tunes on this site that think otherwise are kidding themselves.
Shouldn’t they also sue Colorado for anyone who uses alcohol and crosses state lines? Alcohol is FAR more dangerous than Marijuana and that remains legal.
Ultimately the legal burden should lie upon the individual and not the state of Colorado.
Find what works and stick to it, consequences be damned!
That's correct. But, Randolph Hearst led the campaign to ban hemp, by demonizing marijuana -- and hemp was banned along with marijuana.
The reason? Hemp is actually superior for pulping into paper, by several different metrics (paper per acre, number of times paper can be recycled, longer shelf-life for paper).
Hearst had significant holdings in timber, and he used his media empire to protect them, inflaming hysteria over marijuana to ban hemp.
And it's too bad that they pollute a site that defines itself as "pro-Constitution" with their bilge.
I think that's a bit extreme. But, I do think that medical care entitlements should be revoked for anyone that uses mood-altering drugs for recreation, for related illnesses.
I'd include abusive use of alcohol and tobacco in that qualifier, along with riding a motorcycle without a helmet and morbid obesity. Like you say, freedom cuts both ways: if you decide to abuse your body, then you have chosen to suffer the consequences.
I'd make one exception: a genuine effort to kick an addiction. But, while I would be fine with a second chance if you backslide, the next time I'd presume you weren't serious.
A new NBC News/Marist Poll shows that 55 percent of adult Colorado residents back the law that legalized the regulated use, possession and sale of cannabis by adults. The poll found that 41 percent oppose the law, including 8 percent who said they are actively trying to overturn the legislation.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/09/colorado-marijuana-legalization_n_5792418.html
Marijuana is probably being moved from Nebraska and Oklahoma to Colorado, instead of the other way around.
“Is that clear enough? It’s only about you, if you’re a doper.”
That’s just not true.
I’ve never smoked pot. The first time I was prescribed pain medication I ended up in the ER with three doctors chuckling at me because I thought I was dying and I was only stoned.
I didn’t drink alcohol until I was 30.
I’m not a criminal at all. I should have a bumper sticker that reads, “Don’t be mad. If you’re behind me, you won’t get a ticket,” because I never speed.
But I’m seriously planning on killing myself soon because I’m in so much pain that I can’t stand it anymore. I just can’t keep going through this torture.
And there’s help. There’s relief, but I can’t have it because somebody is worried that somebody else might want that drug to get high.
Opoids are a dead-end road. You can only take them for so long before you build up a tolerance and they won’t help you any more.
I’m already tapped out on steroids. My bones can’t take any more and my immune system is at rock bottom. If you think steroids are the answer, then you might also think that AIDS is the answer for what they both do to your immune system.
Yes. I’m considering getting my medical marijuana prescription because it’s my last hope for life.
And I do want to live. I just want to LIVE. Not just exist.
I’m tired of being a burden. I’m tired of fighting. I can’t hurt any more.
Give me another option. Please.
No. Not just ‘dopers’ care about these laws. The laws have put sufferers into a box and we have no other place to go.
I honestly don’t care if anyone wants to get ‘high’ any more. I really don’t. Let them get stoned.
If it prevents the rest of us from suffering, so be it.
I’m not a ‘doper’. I’m not a drug abuser. I’ve never broken the law in my life.
And I’m about to give up my home to (legally) try medical marijuana as my last stop before I put a bullet in my brain and set my family free.
Many people have an interest in these laws and those people aren’t ‘dopers’. People with broken backs (like me), people with bone cancer, people with crippling arthritis and other debilitating diseases are hoping for relief.
I was a huge Drug Warrior and I didn’t stop until the WOD actually affected ‘me’. I really believed that if *I* were in trouble, the law would understand that *I* was an innocent who needed help and would see that it was provided.
So the Law and the doctors look at my incredible MRI’s, x-rays, and CT scans and say, “Wow. How are you ALIVE?!” But they won’t admit that I am in pain.
Doctors are terrified of pain patients. My daughter has no need for narcotics - she’s not in any pain - and she’s having trouble finding a new family doctor because they won’t take ANY new patients in fear that they’ll get a pain patient.
I was wrong. YOU are wrong. Please see that they don’t care if they’re cracking down on a leather-clad stoner or YOUR mother, the WOD does not discriminate. The Law sees people using ‘drugs’ (any drugs) as evil and cracks down on them.
And your mother will be left in the gutter as a casualty of the WOD.
I was a ‘drug warrior’ because I really believed that the Law would see the difference between a middle-aged woman with a broken spine and a teenaged tweeker in an alley.
I was wrong.
The answer to the WOD is to put everyone who needs/wants narcotics in the same boat. The Law doesn’t care.
And they crack down on the doctors so that THEY do not care.
My mistake was believing that there was such a thing as ‘common sense’ left in the world. My last pain doctor bragged about how he tortured 80 year old women with crippling arthritis and treated them like criminals and made them take a urine test every four weeks.
When you put a blanket bureaucracy in place you get... a bureaucracy. That paper room doesn’t care about you. It has no common sense. It only exists to check a block.
I’m sorry. I’m in too much horrible, torturous pain to properly grasp the entire concept of the thread.
Carry on without me. Just like the rest of society does.
Because the Law doesn’t see the difference between the old woman with a broken back and the 19 year old ‘drug seeker’. Really. It doesn’t.
Us people with actual broken backs, cancer, and crippling disease get in the way of the whole ‘drug’ argument for the drug warriors.
I know. I used to be a drug warrior. Until I realized that there is no ‘common sense’ in government and that, if you’re in real pain, nobody will be there to help you.
No. I’ve never smoked pot. Yes. I am considering it over a bullet to the brain. And anyone who says that I don’t have the right to make that choice, is invited to come to my house to participate in the ‘bullet in the brain’ moment for themselves.
Why not? You’re the ones who contributed to that moment by worrying so hard about people who want to get ‘high’ that you’ll prevent the pain patient from relief.
You people can say that there’s no connection between the ‘stoner’ and the ‘pain patient’, but they *are* linked. The Law doesn’t see a difference. Neither should you.
I don’t buy the analgesic effects of Ganga. Chronic pain is always cited in regards to marijuana, and with enough first hand experience with it, I find those claims questionable.
At this stage in life I have enough experience to know that Ganga as pain management is a scam. I even find the nausea calming effects questionable WRT chemo.
If you want Ganga legalized as a recreational then let’s have that discussion on it’s merits. But don’t try to out flank the discussion with “medical” excuses because I’m not buying it. We might as well be talking homeopathics for legitimate treatments instead of the snake oil they are.
As I’ve not tried it, I’m actually looking for input such as yours.
I’ve got no other hope, so I was hoping that MM wasn’t hype.
Last question: in your experience, is there anything that does help with chronic pain? Opiates are a dead-end road. You just need more and more until there’s nothing left to help you.
Is there anything that helps?
They are suing the wrong government. The state of Colorado is not responsible for upholding US law.
There’s always the route of going where it can be had and trying it out.
Dulling senses as it does, it may dull the psychological side of suffering. Sometimes worry about the pain hurts worse than the pain itself does.
However, dealing with pain has a spiritual side too. As outlandish as it may sound, offering the pain to God will yield a new perspective. It can help teach you about a comforting side of God that you might otherwise have missed. I can’t speak of pot, not having partaken, but I can speak of spirituality. I don’t have philosophical objections to mercy uses of medicines. I do have objections to using them to dodge what you could have had God helping with in some other manner.
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