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Hostages taken in Lindt Chocolate shop by armed robber (Sydney Australia, ISIS flag seen displayed)
news.com.au ^ | 15th December 2014

Posted on 12/14/2014 3:37:33 PM PST by naturalman1975

A hostage has been forced to hold up an Islamic State flag in the window of a shop in Martin Place that is currently under siege.

It is believed there are 12 hostages in the store and an ISIS flag has been placed in the window.

Martin Place is the main financial area of the Sydney CBD.

(Excerpt) Read more at heraldsun.com.au ...


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Breaking News; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alreadyposted; australia; deathtoislam; globaljihad; hostagecrisis; hostages; iran; is; isis; islamicimperialism; islamicstate; islamonazism; jihad; lebanon; lindt; manharonmoni; manharonmonis; martinplacecafe; sydney; waronterror; whywefight; wot
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To: caww

One that I saw,,,was wearing an apron..and presumably an employee at the cafe

I Pray that this concludes well.


441 posted on 12/14/2014 9:19:49 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: TomGuy

That’s a good point. I would hope the Australians have got that angle covered.


442 posted on 12/14/2014 9:20:39 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: radu

True.


443 posted on 12/14/2014 9:20:40 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat
I haven't tried the YT link. ABC 24 is what I've been watching.
444 posted on 12/14/2014 9:20:45 PM PST by radu (May God watch over our troops and keep them safe)
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To: radu

The UT is ABC24 link to onsite viewing.


445 posted on 12/14/2014 9:21:36 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: radu

Other officials are returning to the city because of this situation...I think they’re staging further.

There’s more going on I think...for obvious reasons not going to inform the public more than they have to.

If that indeed was an ‘escape’...those people put the others at risk by doing so....


446 posted on 12/14/2014 9:22:25 PM PST by caww
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To: radu

It’s a good technique if there are EMS people right there to correct the sudden pass-out of the hostages.


447 posted on 12/14/2014 9:22:51 PM PST by txhurl (No more taglines)
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To: Yardstick

They’ve had contact with the gunman....which I think may have been even before reported. The ‘duration alone’ would indicate this and the fact they had a negotiating team on the scene right away.


448 posted on 12/14/2014 9:24:04 PM PST by caww
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To: All

Wonder if this guy is a ‘throw-away’, to gauge response and resolve?


449 posted on 12/14/2014 9:24:14 PM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: txhurl

most I have seen have a key lock that will bypass the alarm, especially if the door was used in s back room for receiving, etc. they can open it to bring supplys in then arm it so they know if it was opened by a unauthorized person.


450 posted on 12/14/2014 9:24:40 PM PST by matt04
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To: matt04

Emergency exits are typically alarmed here in the States. Is the same true in Oz?


451 posted on 12/14/2014 9:26:35 PM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: Kackikat; matt1234

matt1234 posted, just above your post, that police are on the 2nd floor of the building the café is in. That lift may be how they got up there.


452 posted on 12/14/2014 9:26:38 PM PST by radu (May God watch over our troops and keep them safe)
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To: Kackikat

I didn’t get there using YT. I used the direct link to their site and it’s been working fine.


453 posted on 12/14/2014 9:27:46 PM PST by radu (May God watch over our troops and keep them safe)
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To: caww

did you really just say that ?


454 posted on 12/14/2014 9:28:57 PM PST by advertising guy ( Muslims, another white meat)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Hostage situations are always difficult when so many are taken.

Wonder what the guys demands are?

These negotiators are amazing in how they can operate in a hostage situation. Sometimes over eager police get in the way but I understand these teams even have men who keep the police in line in what and why things are necessary to let the negotiators work.

One of the things they will do once they know what his demands are, is to give him the most basic requests...sometimes in exchange for hostages....it’s a very refined and exact..”Science”.


455 posted on 12/14/2014 9:31:00 PM PST by caww
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To: Riley

It’s common, but not universal in my experience.


456 posted on 12/14/2014 9:31:02 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: caww

Something’s up, that seems apparent. But I agree they won’t tip their hand any more than they can help it. They still don’t know if there are others involved with this. I wanna know where this guy’s two buddies are.

I had the same thought as you about the three who escaped. Maybe that’s why they brought the big trucks in. They may expect an explosion since people in buildings facing the café are being told to stay inside by the police.

I’m holding my breath and hoping this doesn’t get really ugly.


457 posted on 12/14/2014 9:32:37 PM PST by radu (May God watch over our troops and keep them safe)
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To: radu

I can’t be certain - but looking at him a few times, I have serious doubts about the man who described seeing these two others.

Unfortunately some people try to insert themselves into stories like this.


458 posted on 12/14/2014 9:34:11 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: txhurl

If they do it, I hope the EMS folks are ready to act quickly. This is all very unnerving and you know the hostages’ families are losing their minds with worry.


459 posted on 12/14/2014 9:34:37 PM PST by radu (May God watch over our troops and keep them safe)
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To: advertising guy

Of course...that’s a given in a hostage situation...the gunman is generally already more than testy...this has been going on all day...he’s tired no doubt. So yes it would put the other’s at risk for a trigger happy individual.

My guess is this guy is not, rahter has a definate agenda, planned and well thought out or this would have been a wrap sometime ago.

This may very well go on for days.


460 posted on 12/14/2014 9:35:33 PM PST by caww
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