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Most of the interrogations did work , and the main mistake we made was not killing these people after they had the intel extracted .

America's end will be showing mercy to our mortal enemies.

1 posted on 12/09/2014 11:18:36 AM PST by LeoWindhorse
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The CIA’s use of torture failed to gain any intelligence on imminent terrorist threats, didn’t lead to any high-level terrorists – including Osama bin Laden – produced fabricated information and was far more brutal than the agency has portrayed

So?

Getting information is just a bonus, as far as I'm concerned.

2 posted on 12/09/2014 11:21:07 AM PST by Lazamataz (It's insanity to support those who hate us, no matter they call themselves Democrats or Republicans.)
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“America’s end will be showing mercy to our mortal enemies.”

And a good many congresscritters, MSM idiots, and marshmallow department college “professors” are in that group.

Hopefully, we can address this in a satisfactory manner following CW-II.


3 posted on 12/09/2014 11:21:28 AM PST by Da Coyote
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It is sad when the individuals in the Demcratic Party are biggers liars and threats to our nation that ISIS is. They are fundamentally evil.


6 posted on 12/09/2014 11:23:13 AM PST by RatRipper (No need to rob others; democRATS will steal and share a tiny bit with you.)
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Whether 5% of the interrogations worked or 95% of them worked is beside the point. These jihadis were flying airplanes full of innocent people into buildings full of innocent people.

Preventing that type of tragedy from repeating is worth breaking a few jihadi heads and more.

8 posted on 12/09/2014 11:23:50 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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Define “brutalized”.

Were there any marks, scars, or internal injuries?


10 posted on 12/09/2014 11:24:46 AM PST by G Larry (Amnesty imposes SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL immigrants & minorities)
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There is nothing believable coming out of Wash. these days, its all optics.


11 posted on 12/09/2014 11:24:57 AM PST by Pietro
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Horses—t!


12 posted on 12/09/2014 11:25:26 AM PST by dfwgator
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Torture. It is not a pretty thing. It is ugly and often, possibly inhumane. The Geneva Convention forbids it. I do not believe in it.

Now here is the problem. Let’s make it personal for you.
I have taken and am holding someone you dearly love. A person you are willing die for (some may have a problem with serious commitment like this. What or who are you willing to DIE for?).

I am in your custody.

My operatives are going to slowly and painfully rape and kill this person you love so much.

You have one hour to get me to tell you where your loved one is and how to stop the killing of this loved one.

What is your plan to get me to tell you this information?
You must obey the rules. No waterboarding, sleep deprivation, exposure to cold, humiliation, playing “Freebird” for hours on end and other nasty things.

What is your plan? The clock is ticking.


13 posted on 12/09/2014 11:26:29 AM PST by GOJPN
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In that case, they should immediately proceed to the executions.


14 posted on 12/09/2014 11:27:58 AM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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What I'm afraid we might be missing, in all of the hubbub of this Senate investigation, is just how much fun it is to torture terrorists. Surely, that must count for something.
15 posted on 12/09/2014 11:28:10 AM PST by Boogieman
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I love when libs attack an agency in the government, aren’t
they the people who say “good government can do good things”
or some such drivel.

If they have just proven that gov’t is bad, aren’t they, by
extension, also saying they are just as bad since they
favor such an organization?


19 posted on 12/09/2014 11:33:37 AM PST by txnativegop (Tired of liberals, even a few in my own family.)
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As if those who murder innocent people by beheading them will be outraged at the way captured terrorists are treated?


21 posted on 12/09/2014 11:39:24 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Good Muslims, like good Nazis or good liberals, are terrible human beings.)
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We may, somewhat understandably, defend these actions. But here’s the problem...

What do we do when, because of legal precedent, these tactics are used on us?

We may, sometime soon, be seen as enemies of the state - because we don’t support gay marriage or whatever else they have coming down the pipeline.


22 posted on 12/09/2014 11:39:28 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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Landay has a history of hating the intel and defense industry, as well as hating anything Bush.


26 posted on 12/09/2014 11:43:46 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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http://ciasavedlives.com/

An informative response by former operatives and officers.


27 posted on 12/09/2014 11:45:45 AM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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Can’t believe Valerie Plame is all over MSNBC over this. It seems obvious that she was New Tork Times’ unnamed source aka LEAKER.....who was dishing dirt about Bush...& the Joe Wilson op-ed was meant to provide cover for the Times & their “fair-game” political operative/CIA leaker.

As far as the Senate report is concerned, claiming torture is always ineffective is crazy and FALSE. Democrats believed that going in & have clung to their dogma.....but many types of torture are very reliable...as every child knows! Suppose your brother hides something of yours & you want him to give it back. So you twist his arm behind his back & threaten to break it until he reveals where he hid your stuff....& finally, he confesses to where he hid your stuff & you find it exactly where he confessed to hiding it. In that case, torture clearly is a proven success!
The ONLY place where torture does not work is when you torture a criminal confession out of somebody & its the ONLY evidence you have. In cases such as this, a coerced confession is unreliable & inadmissable. But this is the example Democrats & their lawyers always use-—the ONE case where torture doesn’t work & we admit it!
Police use a form of “torture” every day to get people to cooperate to give them information by which to convict criminals. They might drop criminal charges against a person if they turn state’s evidence & use their testimony as means to gather more evidence against a criminal, beyond just the testimomy, eg, a secretary who knows where her boss’ embezzled cash is hidden for police to get a search warrant & find it as evidence.
Democrats brag about killing Osama bin Laden who never was arrested or charged with a crime and never got lawyers or due process! And Democrats haven’t come down on Obama for his drone de-capitation strikes which sometimes kill innocent people & mete out capital punishment without a fair trial.——so I’m not really sure what great principles the Democrats & Valerie Plame are talking about. You could have KILLED bin Laden and his top generals...but you couldn’t torture them?
Democrats voted for war in Iraq & Afghanistan and prisonners of war were part of the war. They can’t really wash their own hands of the whole thing just because of their partisan political investigation into “torture”!!!!!


28 posted on 12/09/2014 11:49:22 AM PST by Beowulf9
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Does anyone else think it is no coincidence that Senate democrats release their torture report the same day as Gruber is testifying about all the lies told to pass 0bamacare? Despicable.


29 posted on 12/09/2014 11:49:37 AM PST by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
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Media going NUTS over this, and it’s mostly old news.

all to cover up for the Gruber Confession Hearing, which is FAR MORE DAMAGING to the Democrats.


30 posted on 12/09/2014 11:50:08 AM PST by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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I don’t think we needed to know all of this, and certainly what the CIA does or does not do, some should be our business, but if it gets information on keeping AMERICA and those serving to protect AMERICA then I say: ‘DO WHATEVER YOU HAVE TO!!!”


31 posted on 12/09/2014 11:51:41 AM PST by HarleyLady27 (Get the USA out of the UN then get the UN out of the USA; send bamaboy back to Kenya ASAP!!!!)
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They are liars.

Khalid Sheikh Muhammed divulged that there was a courier which later led to the killing of Osama Bid Laden.

That is just one MAJOR piece of intel they got.

33 posted on 12/09/2014 11:54:32 AM PST by what's up
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