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Eric Garner Would Be Alive If He Was Not Obese, Says Rep. Peter King, Thanks Grand Jury For Decision
IBT Times ^ | December 04 2014 12:44 AM | Suman Varandan

Posted on 12/04/2014 3:37:33 PM PST by robowombat

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To: molson209

King could work for Bloomberg. Oh, that’s not supposed to be public knowledge.


41 posted on 12/04/2014 4:36:22 PM PST by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects)
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To: Sasparilla

“When cops are resisted, bad things can and do happen sometimes.
How would cops know this man hadn’t just committed a murder down the street? Or, that he had a reason not to be arrested.”

I saw the video. Hands up, no aggression of any kind, deliberately avoids touching police, backing toward a wall. Excitedly (but politely) pleading to get out of arrest.

My question is... With the NY legal system overwhelmed and years behind in hearing serious cases, why was he being arrested anyway? What is the fine for selling 1 cigarette (a $0.65 item in NY)? Isn’t that citation material? Unless they were looking to harass him, shouldn’t they just have ticketed him for such a minor offense and been on their way?

No wonder they don’t trust cops!


42 posted on 12/04/2014 4:44:02 PM PST by FreeInWV (Have you had enough change yet?)
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To: arbitrary.squid

Should they put everyone in a choke hold until it is determined that they are innocent of all crimes?

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He wasn’t choked, and he committed a serious crime when he slapped the officer’s arms away as he was about to be arrested.


43 posted on 12/04/2014 4:51:16 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: be-baw

Ooesn’t the NYPD have bigger fish to fry than going after a cigarette seller? How about NYC stop ripping off its citizens having to pay huge bridge and tunnel tolls. Now that’s organized, legalized crime of extortion.


44 posted on 12/04/2014 5:00:19 PM PST by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: driftdiver

Ok. Assume the market for untaxed loose cigarettes is saturated because it’s no longer illegal. What other controlled substance would be ok for the victim to peddle?


45 posted on 12/04/2014 5:22:52 PM PST by moehoward
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To: moehoward

Are cigarettes a controlled substance?

You seem to be equating cigarettes to crack but that can’t be right. That would be a an idiotic comparison.


46 posted on 12/04/2014 5:26:19 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Moonman62

How many cops does it take to arrest a man selling cigarettes. My gosh thats a major crime right there.

A veritable crime wave it is.


47 posted on 12/04/2014 5:27:15 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: FreeInWV

Look, he was a cig seller and tax evader in NY.

They’d had enough, in fact he was a 4x cig seller and failed to pay up, obey and comply.

Add up all those cig dollars over a few years and someone’s pension in the NY government could be affected. That is not tolerated and they have muscle to force payment.

It’s simple, do as you’re told...Pay up, and comply.

Otherwise ya might get your legs broken....Or worse.


48 posted on 12/04/2014 5:33:52 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: FreeInWV
‘With the NY legal system overwhelmed and years behind in hearing serious cases, why was he being arrested anyway? What is the fine for selling 1 cigarette (a $0.65 item in NY)? Isn’t that citation material? Unless they were looking to harass him, shouldn’t they just have ticketed him for such a minor offense and been on their way?’

Interesting questions. It appears that Hizzoner DeBlasio has designated ‘lost revenue’ from bootleg tobacco sales as at the top of the list for criminal activities the NYPD is supposed to go after. Hizzoner has become particularly incensed at the losey salesmen he encounters almost everywhere in Gotham and the other boroughs. He takes it as a personal affront and has made PC Bratton just how unhappy he is about and how he considers such open sales evidence that the NYPD is derelict in enforcing the law and just maybe contemptuous of the Dear and Glorious Leader. So NYPD operations at precinct level are feeling the heat to show lots of pro-activity and get those arrest stats up for the crime of losey selling.

49 posted on 12/04/2014 5:34:39 PM PST by robowombat
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To: driftdiver

Yep!!!!


50 posted on 12/04/2014 5:41:12 PM PST by napscoordinator (President Walker is our future President! Ted Cruz is the Senate Majority Leader in the future!)
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To: robowombat
Your post is right out of....

Funny stuff.

Ya don't want to have your legs broken or be found in the river...Just pay up and comply, then ya get to go home to the little wife. Capisce?

51 posted on 12/04/2014 5:47:17 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: EDINVA

So he isn’t really dead?


52 posted on 12/04/2014 6:10:01 PM PST by TigersEye (ISIS is the tip of the spear. The spear is Islam.)
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To: driftdiver

How many cops does it take to arrest a man selling cigarettes. My gosh thats a major crime right there.

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Eric Garner seemed to think he could fight them all off.


53 posted on 12/04/2014 6:20:00 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: driftdiver

They are regulated, and were they not, what do you suppose the victim would peddle that would have similar marketability? The obvious point is he would have found something. Probably something Illegal.

He resisted arrest. Rule number one is when a cop says you are under arrest, you comply. Something he should have learned from his many previous encounters with cops.


54 posted on 12/04/2014 6:22:34 PM PST by moehoward
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To: robowombat

Bratton isn’t the an he used to be-—————Wilhelm is walking all over him.

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55 posted on 12/04/2014 6:24:03 PM PST by Mears
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To: driftdiver

What did his skin color have to do with it.

You think all things being equal if he were white it wouldn’t have been the same outcome?


56 posted on 12/04/2014 6:25:16 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

I think you mean this to the bigot and not me.

The cop woulda done the same to a white guy.


57 posted on 12/04/2014 6:37:18 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Moonman62

Fight? If that’s a fight to you then you must be pretty delicate.


58 posted on 12/04/2014 6:38:32 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: molson209

The use of a taser would have had the same result. Why is the media not going after the black female officer who was reportedly in charge of the arrest?


59 posted on 12/04/2014 6:39:36 PM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: TigersEye

What an absurd comment! BUT when he was saying he couldn’t breathe, he obviously was breathing or he couldn’t talk, much less yell. Or have you never been unable to breathe? Or in the company of one who truly can’t breathe?

The man was a good 150-200 lbs overweight, with a slew of medical conditions. He looked like he was 3-4X the size of the initial cop who tried to arrest him. He made a stupid, fatal decision. Or several if you want to go back to deciding to sell cigarettes illegally, however outrageous the NYC tax may be.


60 posted on 12/04/2014 6:41:32 PM PST by EDINVA
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