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Four potential Republican challengers who worry Hillary
The Hill ^ | December 4, 2014 | Amie Parnes

Posted on 12/04/2014 9:12:44 AM PST by C19fan

Hillary Clinton allies are focusing on four potential Republican challengers for the White House: Jeb Bush, Rand Paul, Chris Christie and Scott Walker.

Clinton World believes Paul has run the best “pre-campaign” of the group. And the fact that the Republican senator from Kentucky has worked to attract Republicans and Democrats to his cause has made him someone to watch.

Yet, time and again, Bush is the top name to roll off everyone’s tongue.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016; clinton; hillary2016; potus
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

Your list does not include stopping and reversing the invasion of the US. It does not include abolishing the Obamacare mandate. And not just talking about it, doing it with the power of the purse, at the risk of Obama creating a government shutdown. Anyone who does not support, in strongest terms, those two issues will not get the constitutional conservative vote.


41 posted on 12/04/2014 10:03:59 AM PST by grania
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To: C19fan

Total disinformation.

The WANT Paul because, while he may attract a lot of curiosity and attention for being different, he is extremely beatable. Why? Because there seems to be no coherence to his policies, particularly foreign policy. I do see the big picture of his views (while agreeing sometimes and being very opposed other times), but sometimes he comes up with a real whopper. That kind of inconsistency will be ripped apart.

As for the rest mentioned, IMHO:

1) Stay out da Bushes;
2) Kristie Kreme stands NO CHANCE to win the primaries - he cannot win anything in the South and West (except maybe Kali) because of his gun control stance (and I’m originally from NJ and I’m disgusted by them - I’ll actively tell people NOT to vote for the statist SOB). That said, I’d love to have him as Secretary of Labor - he does know how to push back against the unions.
3) Walker certainly knows how to campaign, and from what I’ve seen so far is an excellent governor...for the little time that he’s actually had to BE governor and not a candidate. Seems like the poor guy has been campaigning for about 5 years straight. However, ZERO foreign policy experience. I’d be very happy with him as POTUS, but I have at least one ahead of him.

As has been pointed out, there is certainly one figure not discussed...probably because of the great fear that the Kintonistas and other Dems have of him: Ted Cruz. Cruz would, in the absence of Reagan, be dismissed by virtually everyone (and, as it is, is dismissed by many). However, Reagan showed that an articulate and passionate conservative can tap a nerve in the American psyche and clean the clocks of all of the establishment candidates. With that experience, the Dems are petrified...and Cruz has an advantage over Reagan - he is smarter (not that Reagan was any kind of dope, either, media bias notwithstanding) and has been educated and experienced in debate as an attorney. You don’t get to be the law clerk for the Chief Justice by being stupid or lazy - they don’t give that away to ANYONE, you really, really have to earn it. Read his bio on Wikipedia - one impressive credential or accomplishment after another.

He has his values down solidly and in full agreement with true conservatism, he knows how to think quickly on his feet, he knows how to strategize, and he’s got a compelling way of communicating with people. This guy is the real deal...and the Dems are peeing in their pants about facing him. They’ll tell you the opposite, of course, but they fear him. Hillary, in particular - she has this (steaming pile of of horse crap) reputation as the “smartest woman in the world” - yet knows that Cruz is smarter, harder working and younger than her. She will be hung, drawn and quartered in debates with Cruz.


42 posted on 12/04/2014 10:04:56 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Jim Noble

“administration of a political campaign and making a good speech do not constitute qualifications to administer the monstrosity that the Executive Branch has become.”

WRT any run-of-the-mill Senator, you are correct. Frankly your assertion is correct regarding almost any legislator. The best Presidents have been governors or generals before assuming office, and the worst have GENERALLY been legislatores.

Of course, Carter was a governor, and Gerry Ford (legislator), though only a bit above average as President, was head and shoulders better than that idiot. FDR was a governor...and while a guy who got things done, he got many of the WRONG things done.

Bush 43 was a governor...and decidedly mediocre (esp. 2nd term).

Lincoln was never an executive. You can argue all day about how he abused (or not) the Constitution during the Civil War, but he and he alone preserved the Union.

Reagan was a governor, of course, but where did he learn the skills to run CA? From acting? Being President of the SGA? Nope - he had a natural gift, he was a born leader that just needed the opportunity.

So, based on just these few examples, I’d say that while there is truth to your general observation, it isn’t and can’t be an iron-clad rule (and I know that you understand this as well - I’m not accusing you of claiming that it is).

I would argue that Cruz is one of the exceptions to the rule. Take a look at his Wikipedia bio http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_cruz to see how many times in his short life that he’s been put in charge of something that came out well. He, like Reagan, has the gift of leadership. What he also has is a solid vision that is utterly consistent with the ideals of the Founders, and he can communicate is about as well as Reagan himself could. I can’t think of anyone I’d rather have as both the GOP candidate and the POTUS than him.


43 posted on 12/04/2014 10:20:31 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Scooter100
The deja vu of it all is so very tiring.

Not if we can get behind Ted Cruz early on. Let the RINOs tear each other apart this time. They can't pretend to be conservative when they are standing next to a real one and Ted will out them in the debates.

I expect the GOPe to run some fake conservatives again like Huckabee to try to strip off some support from Cruz. We just should not fall for it this time.

44 posted on 12/04/2014 10:27:35 AM PST by usurper (Liberals GET OFF MY LAWN)
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To: C19fan

Anyone willing to speak the truth should worry her.


45 posted on 12/04/2014 10:42:09 AM PST by Old Yeller (Civil rights are for civilized people.)
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To: Ancesthntr

Well stated.


46 posted on 12/04/2014 10:42:16 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra (To win the country back, we need to be as mean as the libs say we are.)
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To: RetSignman

Agreed. Perry’s debate performances in 2012 was abysmal to say the least. He was ill prepared and recovering from back surgery which may have been a factor.

I am willing to give him a second chance.

I live in CA and we usually have our presidential primary late in the game, usually in June.

So by the time I get to cast my vote, I suspect the field will be substantially reduced by then. If Perry is still hanging in there, I would definitely consider voting for him over Jeb, Christie, or Paul.


47 posted on 12/04/2014 11:03:28 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Jim Noble

And when Obama is done it will be fresh in everyone’s mind just how bad a fit a Senator can be.


48 posted on 12/04/2014 11:25:15 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
9) Is strongly pro-Second Amendment

Not so much, maybe Abbot will change it as he promised.

49 posted on 12/04/2014 12:02:46 PM PST by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

Personally, I am looking for a conservative governor.....

1) Scott Walker
2) Bobby Jindal
3) Mike Pence
4) Rick Perry
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What do you think about Gov. Susana Martinez of New Mexico?


50 posted on 12/04/2014 12:36:02 PM PST by Din Maker (Is anyone considering Gov. Susana Martinez of NM as the possible GOP nominee in 2016?)
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To: Seruzawa; All

She’d better worry about other democRATS first.
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For real. Hillary is so yesterday. She’s old and has a whole lot of baggage. The only way she could win is because she would be the first Woman to be President of the United States. We could diffuse that by nominating Gov. Susana Martinez of NM.


51 posted on 12/04/2014 12:40:01 PM PST by Din Maker (Is anyone considering Gov. Susana Martinez of NM as the possible GOP nominee in 2016?)
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To: Tupelo

I must say I am offended that you would show a picture of Hillary Clinton and a vulture.
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Come on Tupelo; you’re not really offended are you? I’m thinking you just forgot the /sarc tag.


52 posted on 12/04/2014 12:41:38 PM PST by Din Maker (Is anyone considering Gov. Susana Martinez of NM as the possible GOP nominee in 2016?)
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To: Din Maker

Like her.

LOVED her speech at the GOP convention in Tampa 2012.

Although....Clint Eastwood gave the BEST convention speech I ever heard in my whole life IMHO.


53 posted on 12/04/2014 12:42:41 PM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Gumdrop

Kasich is really moving “left”. I put him in the same category as Christie and Jeb.


54 posted on 12/04/2014 12:42:53 PM PST by Din Maker (Is anyone considering Gov. Susana Martinez of NM as the possible GOP nominee in 2016?)
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To: Scooter100

And we wonder why we ALWAYS end up with a Moderate at the top of the Ticket.


55 posted on 12/04/2014 12:44:02 PM PST by Din Maker (Is anyone considering Gov. Susana Martinez of NM as the possible GOP nominee in 2016?)
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To: C19fan; All

You know what folks..... I really don’t worry about Hillary or Jeb. I truly believe that America is fatigued with the Clinton and the Bush dynasties. I’m not sure that either of them will get the nominations. Just sayin’


56 posted on 12/04/2014 12:46:09 PM PST by Din Maker (Is anyone considering Gov. Susana Martinez of NM as the possible GOP nominee in 2016?)
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To: C19fan
Bush - hell no

Paul - kinda sorta yes

Christie - hell no

Walker - hell yes

Nuf ced

57 posted on 12/04/2014 1:11:41 PM PST by Eric Pode of Croydon
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To: Signalman
Cruz/Walker ********************************************************** That would be a GREAT ticket. I wouldn't want Walker to be the “big guy” until Ted Cruz had his time to get the mammoth ship that is America off its present suicidal path and headed firmly in the right direction. I certainly hope that Walker doesn't follow the political advice of his less intelligent political advisors and begin to aim arrows at Cruz. I fear that I've detected the tiny beginnings of such warring when he said that only a Governor would be a viable candidate. And we're getting such subtle anti-Cruz shots from a number of the more squishy posters here.
58 posted on 12/04/2014 1:38:33 PM PST by House Atreides
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To: C19fan

What a crock. She has probably already made a deal with the RINOS. I hear Hillary has gone country. The song is good; although I think I have heard the tune before. The singing it was either offered a deal he couldn’t refuse or he’s off his rocker.


59 posted on 12/04/2014 4:14:37 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Din Maker

No /s tag because I was not being sarcastic. Did you read the entire post? if not, here is the second part again.

“Vultures are really noble creatures. They have been charged by the All Mighty to be nature’s garbage collectors and THEY do a damn good job of it.
Name me one good job Hillary has done. Much less a damn good job”

Now seriously, do you see anything sarcastic about these four simple little sentences? Not even any 3 dollar words.


60 posted on 12/04/2014 6:57:24 PM PST by Tupelo (Abby as in Abby Normal.)
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