Posted on 12/03/2014 6:28:48 PM PST by Biggirl
On Wednesday, a New York grand jury refused to indict Officer Daniel Pantaleo in the death of 43-year-old Eric Garner. Pantaleo is white; Garner is black. That one fact meant that the President of the United States and the Mayor of New York City took to the microphones to denounce American racism.
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I know what a choke hold is. I’ve been trained to use it.
Patrick Lynch stands by his claim that this was not a choke hold. But I don’t think the technical definition matters all that much. I guess it does if what the cop did was legal rather than illegal. You will see why this is more complicated when the evidence is released.
You'rre right. The cops would have choked out a white man just as quickly.
Isn’t that the issue and the only issue at this point. The top man at the City of New York (Blasio) is saying in effect “ok, we killed him”.
Ok back, “so what”..........well “so what” is that all that is really left to do is talk about the penalty. The cops will want him retired with full pay to a beach in the Virgin Islands. The race industry will want him slowly burned alive at the stake in Central Park while the bros burn the town down and loot all the stores with the police and national guard watching.
I predict he will get completely off the hook because the cops just aren’t gonna allow him to be convicted! When they want to, they have that kind of clout. What happens next is anybody’s guess.
From now on, no black man can be arrested until a physician employed by the police department reviews his medical records.
The message to everyone should be that if you resist arrest, everything that happens to you after that is on you.
I’d like to see what the definition of a choke hold is, then.
But I hope I will soon see that I am wrong and everything was justified.
“He didn’t have a weapon -— he had cigarettes”
Unless he was subdued, how was the officer to know he didn’t have a weapon. At some point, the discussion of how to act when confronted by a police officer must take place. If not, we will be discussing the next “victim” in the near future.
Cops have become too impatient and too indifferent, they should never have been allowed to become unions.
At some point when routine cop actions are resulting in people dying, we need to start asking if they did something wrong.
Routine daytime arrests of obese people when there is plenty of help available and no time constraints, should be handled in ways that don’t look so stupid afterward.
—>>>Patrick Lynch stands by his claim that this was not a choke hold. But I don’t think the technical definition matters all that much. I guess it does if what the cop did was legal rather than illegal. You will see why this is more complicated when the evidence is released.
All this is very true. And, if shown there is a difference in these holds, by now, millions think they deliberately choked the guy / to cause the death / can’t put the Jeanie back in now.. It was an accident / not about race / or hate crime as the left is saying. This cop’s life is done like Darrin Wilson. I feel bad there is a death but why don’t people just stop and not fight the police. Now, the media has another narrative / blacks being killed by white police. The man was warned repeatedly not to be there. Right from the beginning, he told the police that he wasn’t going anywhere.
Cops been abusing all races with increased frequency the last 15 years. Race had nothing to do with it.
Astounding to see most of the participants on Fox’s “The Five” jump on the fashionable PC Garner was wronged bandwagon, while the two panelists on RT’s “Lone Liberal Rumble” pointed out correctly that he resisted arrest and was almost twice as large as the first officer who confronted him - sometimes the Ruskies tell the truth in spite of themselves....
I wonder if the "cops" knew this man had asthma and heart disease? A stressful asthmatic attack could cause a heart attack with no one laying a hand on, couldn't it?
I wonder if the medical examiners know what a true "choke hold" is? (I didn't)
I wonder if we would have heard anything about this at all if the "suspect" had been white? or the police officers involved had been black too?
I wonder if anyone realizes how tragic and life-changing this is for EVERYONE involved, not just for the deceased's family and friends?
Racial divisions and animosity seem to be suddenly getting much worse again, in the "post-racial" Obama era.
Not that the actual facts should get in the way of the narrative. Sadly.
The neighbors had complained about all the cigarette selling in the street. This was community policing, because the cops were trying to clear up a problem that was causing complaints.
The loosie sellers were the thing that brought teenage hoods and bums to this street and attracted other crime. Eric Garner had been cited several other times for doing this, and I don’t know why he freaked out on this occasion (one initial report said he had cocaine in his system, but I haven’t seen that since). He was a big guy, and all they were trying to do was control him.
And already cops just want go in a number of black neighborhoods.
Soon, they will literally have to police themselves like back home in Liberia.
A chokehold is just that: a hold. The cop put his arm around Garner’s neck and pulled him back, which is not a “hold.”
Maybe they should have clubbed him instead?
I don’t think I can find much argument with what you say other than to say we (the cops) can’t (or shouldn’t) just look the other way when a crime is being committed.
That said, should selling Loonies be a crime?
Hmmmm......auto accidents in Colorado are up 100%.
Anyway, Ferguson taught us FACTS don’t matter to the race pimping industry.
What in the world are you talking about? Read post 49 again, I never said anything related to that.
Thanks for the background (post 55), I didn’t know that.
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