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1 posted on 11/23/2014 7:19:19 AM PST by Second Amendment First
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Well, I’m a Navy vet, and I disagree. So there.


30 posted on 11/23/2014 7:36:40 AM PST by Kenton
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11,078 firearm homicides in 2010, versus 32,999 motor vehicle fatalities.

"From 1999 through 2010, a total of 46,419 deaths from unintentional drowning (including boating) occurred in the United States, an average of 3,868 deaths per year."

There is no constitutional right to either a car or a swimming pool, so let's ban them! It would be more than 3 x more effective than banning guns!

31 posted on 11/23/2014 7:36:45 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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"If you feel... that my 6 year-old son's life is less important than your right to own whatever firearm and ammunition you want, then say that."

Alright, Shawn VanDiver, I'll say it. Our right to own whatever firearms and ammunition we want is more important than anyone's life -- your 6 year old son's, yours and mine included. And if you are a veteran and a red blooded male, you should think about such important matters and not merely feel about them. Feelings are fickle, and must be tempered with reality through rational thought. Man up!

33 posted on 11/23/2014 7:37:57 AM PST by Always A Marine
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Look at world history of the pas hundred years and answer the question: Which as killed more people?
1. criminals
2. crazy people
3. governments

Now ask who should be be armed and who should be disarmed.

And don't try to say it can't happen here. We are at most one generation away from tyrrany and considerably less at this moment.

34 posted on 11/23/2014 7:39:07 AM PST by KarlInOhio (The IRS: either criminally irresponsible in backup procedures or criminally responsible of coverup.)
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I don’t care what his background is, this guy is a dick and his “suggestions” are ludicrous. Even suggesting a 5-10 cent tax per round on ammunition (and calling it manageable) is a non starter from my point of view, and tells me that his suggestions are best ignored by any sane citizen.

Purely a gun grabbing loser who is simply regurgitating ideas that have no use outside of infringing on the Second Amendment Rights of Americans, IMO.


35 posted on 11/23/2014 7:39:20 AM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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NO government can be trusted with that much power!
36 posted on 11/23/2014 7:39:20 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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Free men and women don’t need to ask for permission to exercise their natural rights.

Please note my tagline.


37 posted on 11/23/2014 7:39:21 AM PST by SirLurkedalot (My carry permit was issued in 1791. It has no expiration date.)
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We should tell this guy to go back to medical school and get a degree in psychiatry. Then he can comment on all of the mass shootings (that don’t involve Muslims.)


38 posted on 11/23/2014 7:39:43 AM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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“Navy Vet” should know that guns are mounted on platforms and carriages and are owned by governments. Another irrelevant opinion by a person claiming that their argument is special because they are the one making it.


42 posted on 11/23/2014 7:42:19 AM PST by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects)
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And 120 hours for a ccw permit is more of the typical military crap thinking. If it’s your hobby, fine. But it most assuredly doesn’t take that long to learn to shoot if you have the hand and eye coordination to shoot a water pistol out a blow drier.
I’m supposed to take a week of vacation for government training just to own a gun? 2 weeks at a government center to have a ccw?
Jackass...


43 posted on 11/23/2014 7:42:24 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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Too bad this guy didn’t serve on the USS Cole.


44 posted on 11/23/2014 7:42:59 AM PST by Lazamataz (Proudly Deciding Female Criminal Guilt By How Hot They Are Since 1999 !)
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***The next step is requiring 40 hours of training prior to license approval.***

Bunkum. The USAF only required us to have half a day’s training to be arms qualified. Good enough for them, good enough for me.


45 posted on 11/23/2014 7:46:09 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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Although not a majority there are still plenty of vets who are govt worshiping left wing loonies.


48 posted on 11/23/2014 7:51:22 AM PST by Seruzawa (Gully Foyle is my name, and Terra is my nation)
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Prior to 1970 “child” deaths from guns was minimal. Most gun deaths in the 1-19 age group are gang or criminal activity related and result from people who are currently prohibited from owning guns. This will not change with additional laws.

The urban liberal culture is responsible for most of the lawless violence in our society.


49 posted on 11/23/2014 7:53:43 AM PST by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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there does seem to be a element of self interest for a security expert/fire arms instructor to be advocating 40 hours of gov’t mandated training for all gun owners and 80 hrs for concealed carry.

i do think gun owners need to be properly trained. but putting gov’t in charge of that is likely to have the same results as “gov’t licensed” drivers


52 posted on 11/23/2014 8:00:08 AM PST by Reverend Wright (the Obama Presidency: if a jayvee team puts on Lakers uniforms that doesnÂ’t make them Kobe Bryant)
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From his Linkedin

Causes Shawn cares about:

Civil Rights and Social Action
Human Rights
Disaster and Humanitarian Relief
Politics

Organizations Shawn supports:

Clinton Foundation
Human Rights Campaign
PFLAG - Parents, Families and Friends of Lesbians and Gays
ASIS International
International Association of Emergency Managers
California Young Democrats


53 posted on 11/23/2014 8:00:42 AM PST by VeniVidiVici ( Better a conservative teabagger than a liberal teabagee)
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Liberals are never honest.

*Real* gun crime is a demographic problem. The hard, cold fact is that if liberals really cared, they would advocate banning possession of guns by blacks and Hispanics. That would 80% of gun murders. 80%

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2013/01/european-murder-rates-compared-to.html

In 2006 the Department of Justice issued a report on violent felons in large urban counties. It covered the period from 1990 to 2002, and included the 75 most populous counties in the United States. The study accounted for over half of all the murders in the United States in the covered period.

Revealed in the study was a simple breakdown of the demographics of the murderers that is not commonly available. Murderers were divided into three groups. Blacks were the most numerous at 46%. Hispanics were next at 27 percent. Non-Hispanic whites were last at 23 percent.

While the study does not account for all murders in the period studied, it accounts for more than half and almost certainly slightly understates the percentages of Black murderers, because the latest FBI statistics (for 2010) show that when all the murders in the U.S are taken into account, the percentage of Black murderers is over 53 percent.

55 posted on 11/23/2014 8:05:57 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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We regulate chemicals, elevators, airplanes, and financial transactions—and none of those are specifically designed to kill anyone.

Riiiight. But none of those things is stated as a RIGHT in the Constitution, nor were any of those things considered by the Founding Fathers (oooh, so sorry, I mean "Framers"!) as being necessary for the People to protect themselves, both from other people, and/or tyrannical government.

This guy is almost as great a Constitutional "scholar" as Obola....

56 posted on 11/23/2014 8:13:01 AM PST by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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The libtard wolf dressed up in SaranWrap clothes, IMO.

The Constitution’s Second Amendment is very clear and precise. It doesn’t this clown’s tweaking or interpretation.


57 posted on 11/23/2014 8:15:07 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2016; I pray we make it that long.)
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Of course, when one is one ‘their side’ of an issue they become a ‘cause celeb’ much like when Nancy Reagan - whom the media had vilified for so many years - instantly became a ‘hero’ to the left because she opined that maybe one O North should not be the ‘next’ Senator from VA, representing the Republicans.

In this case the author is legitimatized because he lays claim to being a ‘Former Navy Gun Instructor’.

Used to have swim call in the South Pacific and the word would be passed...
“Swim Call - On duty Sharpshooters to their post”...

Since we normally carried Marines it was not a bad thing but when they changed the announcement to all Navy Sharpshooters etc I (we) sorta wondered who was in more trouble, US or the Sharks...(joking)

Everytime there is ANY kind of shooting, couple of wagsters inform ‘ALL’ that if we didn’t have guns, there would be no shootings.

I kind of used the comparison that if ‘they’ were to ‘chop my taliwacker off’, would sexual assaults and rapes go down, especially since in my 75 years I have NEVER sexually assaulted nor raped anyone, nor have I fired a weapon ‘angrily’ in other than a Military setting?

So I just asked how taking MY weapons away makes THEM safer.


58 posted on 11/23/2014 8:16:48 AM PST by xrmusn ((6/98) Would love to buy BO for what he is worth, then sell him for what he thinks he is worth.)
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