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A Navy Vet's Case For Gun Control
Daily Beast ^ | 11.23.14 | Shawn VanDiver

Posted on 11/23/2014 7:19:19 AM PST by Second Amendment First

How many shootings will it take before we adopt common sense gun control? A former Navy weapons instructor lays out the simple steps lawmakers can take to make us all safer.

Last week, there was yet another campus shooting. This time, it was at Florida State University. The exhaustingly predictable cycle of mass shooting, recycled talking points from all sides, proposed legislation, insider lobbying, stagnation, and loss of public interest is about to begin and has been repeated far too many times in recent memory. Face it: the gun rights debate in this country is stale. In May, I talked about how both sides are wrong and said that we need to have some common sense. Today, I am calling on lawmakers to have some damn courage.

If you feel, like the fringe gun lobby does, that my 6 year-old son's life is less important than your right to own whatever firearm and ammunition you want, then say that. Don't hide behind meaningless rhetoric or claim you're ready for action only to back off when the NRA comes knocking. That being said, if you believe—along with a clear majority of Americans of both parties—that modest regulation of weapons designed for the sole purpose of killing humans seems reasonable, that's a pretty easy public position to take.

And before you jump to assumptions, know that I'm no hippie. As a former weapons instructor in the U.S. Navy, I own guns myself—and I want to keep them. However, I believe that our society is overflowing with lethal weapons and that we must take action to prevent more dead kids. Mass shootings are on the rise. Children are dying. When will it be enough to actually do something? Who has the courage to do the right thing—money from special interest groups be damned?

If you feel, like the fringe gun lobby does, that my 6 year-old son's life is less important than your right to own whatever firearm and ammunition you want, then say that. I'll make it easy for lawmakers. Here is the first common sense step for what we need to do, at the state level, to maintain our constitutional right to bear arms while arming ourselves with the tools to be safer in public.

Licensing, to be renewed every five years with full background checks and mental health screenings, is the first step. Adding a checkbox to a driver's license and another form would make this easy to implement. My driver's license tells folks that I am a donor; it could very easily also indicate whether or not I am a gun owner or authorized to carry concealed firearms.

Before you tell me how I am violating your rights by proposing a record of gun owners, note that the constitution does not say that you have the right to bear arms and not tell anyone. We regulate chemicals, elevators, airplanes, and financial transactions—and none of those are specifically designed to kill anyone.

The next step is requiring 40 hours of training prior to license approval. I’m here to tell you that there is little value to having a firearm if one is cannot employ it tactically. I’m not saying we need owners to be trained to the level of Navy SEALs or SWAT teams, but if you claim to want these weapons to protect your home, then you should at least have a baseline knowledge. The training hours should jump to 80 hours for a concealed carry permit. This training should be done by the government to ensure consistency and quality control and should be covered by the tax on ammunition.

And finally, to pay for the licensing process and training as well as the background and mental health screenings, we can add a modest tax to ammunition sales (think five to ten cents per round—a manageable amount). This way, the costs are spread amongst those who wish to own guns.

My hometown city charter calls out public safety as the number one priority; many politicians around the country say the same thing, and I'd like to see them put their money where their mouths are. The question is pretty simple: do your lawmakers have the courage to protect you?

Call your state senators, your assembly members, your mayors, and your city councils. Tell them that you want to protect your kids. You want to protect your communities. Hell, you want to protect yourself. Tell them that, with the stroke of a pen, they can improve safety for their constituents and side with the clear majority of Americans.

And if they try to run you around or brush you off, remember to ask them if they think the right to own as many firearms as one wants without anyone else knowing about it is more important than the lives of America's children—including yours and theirs.


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To: Second Amendment First

Face it: the gun rights debate in this country is stale.

Not a correct statement. There is no gun rights debate or there should not be.
We have an exisiting Constitutional Right. PERIOD. You don’t like that right, then get the Admendment changed.


81 posted on 11/23/2014 9:54:45 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (I am an American Not a Repubiican or a Democrat.)
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To: Second Amendment First

I don’t give a flying “eff,” VanDiver, about you or your six year old son. I carry about liberty, freedom and the Constitution. You, Shawny boy, you fascist, are a pimple on the a$$ of a free America.


82 posted on 11/23/2014 9:55:50 AM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (Amnesty is Obama's Way of Saying "FU" to all those who voted on November 4th)
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To: VeniVidiVici

In other words, this idiot is a lefty. But we all knew that already.


83 posted on 11/23/2014 9:58:02 AM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (Amnesty is Obama's Way of Saying "FU" to all those who voted on November 4th)
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To: Second Amendment First
Do it for the children...

what a novel idea /s/s/s

84 posted on 11/23/2014 10:56:00 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: River_Wrangler
“I agree that the Navy Vet should be able to comment on what he professes to be qualified on but I don't think the public should be allowed to carry torpedoes even with 40/80 hours of guberment training.”

At the time of the writing of the Constitution, it was understood that the 2nd Amendment protected the keeping and bearing of all military arms. People had cannon, mortars, howitzers, grenades, and armed ships. Whether the government likes it or not, people are still entitled to own any weapon they like, provided that there is no inherent extraordinary danger involved (like with CBRN weapons). At the MINIMUM, the Second Amendment protects all conventional weapons used by infantrymen, previous Supreme Court Justices have said the same, but without honoring their words.

85 posted on 11/23/2014 10:58:14 AM PST by MeatshieldActual (Texan Independence, now and forever!)
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To: Cen-Tejas
I find it unusual that he doesn't mention his rank anywhere. If you look at his Linkedin it mentions going to the Navy Post Grad school but the schooling prior to that doesn't seem to add up.

And I finally found his rank - PO1 So I wonder how the Navy Post Grad school fits into this?

86 posted on 11/23/2014 11:17:32 AM PST by VeniVidiVici ( Better a conservative teabagger than a liberal teabagee)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Its not a false choice really. Quite factually, his 6 year olds life has no value when measured against the thousands (or millions?) of childrens lives that are snuffed out when governments become violently oppressive and those are the times our weapons are for.


87 posted on 11/23/2014 11:19:13 AM PST by gnarledmaw (Hive minded liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives elect servants.)
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To: Second Amendment First

“How many shootings will it take before we adopt common sense gun control? “

How many anti-gun laws, beyond the 22,000 currently, before we consider re-defining “common sense”?


88 posted on 11/23/2014 12:34:21 PM PST by DPMD
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To: Olog-hai

“that my 6 year-old son’s life is less important than your right to own whatever firearm and ammunition you want, then say that.”

Okay. It is.

And you, as a dedicated collectivist, should recognize that concept.


89 posted on 11/23/2014 12:35:47 PM PST by DPMD
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To: Second Amendment First

Appeal to authority logical fallacy in the headline, and it goes downhill from there.

No sale.


90 posted on 11/23/2014 12:38:03 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Second Amendment First

Gee, how nazi this clown is.


91 posted on 11/23/2014 12:59:48 PM PST by SERE_DOC ( “The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.” TJ.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Was there a rate to go along with his First Class PO rank??

Meaning was he a yeoman, bosuns mate, gunner, snipe, postal Clerk or what. Just his rate would tell a lot about who he is.


92 posted on 11/23/2014 3:21:28 PM PST by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: VeniVidiVici

NPGS is a pretty varied place. They even have a fairly stout flash x-ray facility where we do latchup testing of electronic components right near the golf course.


93 posted on 11/23/2014 3:25:26 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: NELSON111

Hey Navy Vet with a six yrs old,
go Away!


94 posted on 11/23/2014 4:38:51 PM PST by Big Red Badger ( - William Diamonds Drum - can You Hear it G man?)
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To: dila813

How about banning this Idiots 6 yr old ?


95 posted on 11/23/2014 4:50:40 PM PST by Big Red Badger ( - William Diamonds Drum - can You Hear it G man?)
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To: rockrr
I have seen people on the right fall into the trap AKA “he’s a vet so he must be a patriot” or “He handled guns so he mush know what he’s talking about”.

I was a nuke guy in the Air force yet I have out-shot Marine snipers on the 1000 yard range when the local gun club uses the range. My 100 yard to 600 yard scores are usually better than most of the Marines (active and retired) that shoot with me.

They are either incredulous or mad that some retired AF troop is a better shot than they. I just tell them I have been shooting all my life and I had great teachers; my Dad and two brothers, all who were very good marksmen.

96 posted on 11/23/2014 5:04:06 PM PST by OldMissileer
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To: Balding_Eagle

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3230357/posts?page=1


97 posted on 11/23/2014 6:33:25 PM PST by Dubh_Ghlase (Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls, It tolls for thee.)
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To: Second Amendment First

This is awful.


98 posted on 11/23/2014 6:34:12 PM PST by Lazamataz (Proudly Deciding Female Criminal Guilt By How Hot They Are Since 1999 !)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
NPGS is a pretty varied place. They even have a fairly stout flash x-ray facility where we do latchup testing of electronic components right near the golf course.

I've played on that golf course when I was at DLI. Then they kicked me off after the first hole - LOL!!

99 posted on 11/23/2014 6:57:44 PM PST by VeniVidiVici ( Better a conservative teabagger than a liberal teabagee)
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To: Cen-Tejas

From the link I posted this is what it said (I’m pretty ignorant about Navy rates)

Last Designator/NEC
FC-1119-AEGIS Radar System (SPY-1B/D) Technician


100 posted on 11/23/2014 6:59:55 PM PST by VeniVidiVici ( Better a conservative teabagger than a liberal teabagee)
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