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Republicans Hand Obama an Immigration Political Triumph
New York Magazine ^ | 11/21/2014 | Jonathan Chait

Posted on 11/22/2014 2:05:11 PM PST by aimhigh

There are no serious legal questions about the administration’s plan, which will temporarily legalize the status of some 4.3 million undocumented immigrants. Even lawyers for the conservative Federalist Society concede Obama’s legal reasoning. The serious questions revolve around political norms. And conservative critics have a point that Obama is stretching norms of political behavior by enacting effective changes in the law solely on his own.

Immigration law, unlike other kinds of law, is explicitly designed by Congress to delegate authority to the president. "The Immigration and Nationality Act and other laws are chock-full of huge grants of statutory authority to the president,” notes Republican lawyer Margaret Stock.

(Excerpt) Read more at nymag.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; executiveaction; federalistsociety
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To: skeeter

The author as a deluded leftist


41 posted on 11/22/2014 2:47:05 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: TigersEye
We disagree. I see how they game the system, and respect that they sometimes know more than the lo-info types here in the US with televisions.

/johnny

42 posted on 11/22/2014 2:47:39 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: exit82

There is always the angle of did any of these illegals vote RAT, under pressure?

Virgina Voters’ Alliance is combing through Jury Duty exemptions forms from those who checked ‘not a citizen’ even though their Jury Summons came from the voter rolls, folks whom have voted.

There may be 10 million illegals who could be caught in this trap the RATS unwittingly set for them.


43 posted on 11/22/2014 2:48:17 PM PST by txhurl (2014: Stunned Voters do Stunning Things!)
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To: skeeter

“Where do you go with an essay that starts like this?”

We’re going to see a lot more `question begging’ by Obama’s bootlickers as the days go by. For any lurking Democrats or affirmative action honor graduates, `begging the question’ means “assuming the conclusion (of an argument)”, a type of circular reasoning.

They don’t have the facts or the law, logos is missing-in-action, and they are definitely lacking ethos with Barry’s track record.
America has flatly rejected their pathetic attempts to wring tears from the most generous, immigrant-friendly nation in the world.

So all they can do is have their sycophants in the MSM to say over-and-over, “Well, Obama won.” The commies loves this technique: repeat a big lie over-and-over until it becomes truth.

All we can say in response to this last-ditch gambit is,
“You socialists took our cows to pay for your programs,
so we won’t be needing your bull ... and f*** you too.”

“What else you got? No Deus ex machina? Oh, that’s right: you don’t believe in God, do you? You put your faith in a little tin god.”

Game over.


44 posted on 11/22/2014 2:50:22 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
An EO would be unlawful. He hasn't released one of those.

Johnny, there was an article on the forum last night that explained why Obama isn't going to release any Executive Orders concerning illegal immigration.

In the article (wish I knew where it was), it explains that Obama will be taking "Executive Actions" to implement his immigration agenda. From what I gathered, these will consist of a series of general orders to the various federal agencies charged with handling the various aspects of immigration.

Perhaps you saw the article yourself, or someone else can post a link to the thread.

Anywho....the article presents data that would indicate a way forward to an effective strategy to combat Obama's mischief.

45 posted on 11/22/2014 2:52:28 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
More blather. Only presidential EOs set executive policy.

Any memos don't have any teeth or force of law.

/johnny

46 posted on 11/22/2014 2:55:34 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: aimhigh

Illegal aliens get deported, they don’t get work permits - which is what Obama decrees they be given. THAT is legislating.


47 posted on 11/22/2014 2:56:37 PM PST by Ray76 (When Obama speaks he speaks as the leader of a foreign invasion.)
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To: Windflier; Hostage

It was probably Hostage’s. I go find it


48 posted on 11/22/2014 2:57:22 PM PST by txhurl (2014: Stunned Voters do Stunning Things!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

That would certainly be a break from the past when even off the cuff remarks by presidents resulted in inflated waves of illegals crossing the border.


49 posted on 11/22/2014 2:58:25 PM PST by TigersEye (ISIS is the tip of the spear. The spear is Islam.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

No one that I know of. It just seems to be new territory.

Notice that Obola stepped up the fighting in Afghanistan and released another Gitmo prisoner while our backs were turned.


50 posted on 11/22/2014 2:59:55 PM PST by firebrand
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To: txhurl

AP Finds Obama Grubered Immigration Speech

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3229987/posts

And Hostage’s:

WHERE’S THE EO? IT’S ALL IN THE CARDS! (Hostage)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3229699/posts


51 posted on 11/22/2014 3:00:23 PM PST by txhurl (2014: Stunned Voters do Stunning Things!)
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To: Windflier

These?


52 posted on 11/22/2014 3:03:55 PM PST by txhurl (2014: Stunned Voters do Stunning Things!)
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To: aimhigh

I stopped believing such crap.

Everything can be edited to state the opposite.

Look,at the unedited link not some left wing crap.


53 posted on 11/22/2014 3:05:32 PM PST by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: oblomov

American law does not operate by precedent. (Yes, courts cite precedents from superior courts.)

In America, we have the text of the Constitution, and statutes.

Any Republican who tries doing what Obola is doing will be impeached. That’s because Democrats play to win, while Republicans play in order to be allowed to play.


54 posted on 11/22/2014 3:16:24 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: JRandomFreeper

we shall see how the nuts and bolts on this lay out...God help us.


55 posted on 11/22/2014 3:16:39 PM PST by magna carta
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To: magna carta
Obama's comments have certainly stampeded a bunch of people demanding ACTION!!! now.

That's never a good idea unless the facts and the unlawful orders are there.

/johnny

56 posted on 11/22/2014 3:19:48 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: txhurl

I can take several days before it appears in the Federal Register.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/browse/collection.action?collectionCode=FR&browsePath=2014%2F11&isCollapsed=true&leafLevelBrowse=false&ycord=389


57 posted on 11/22/2014 3:24:54 PM PST by Ray76 (When Obama speaks he speaks as the leader of a foreign invasion.)
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To: aimhigh

58 posted on 11/22/2014 3:26:53 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: JRandomFreeper

yes. I think a lot can be done in appropriations while this new batch is waiting in line and trying to find cash for a lawyer.


59 posted on 11/22/2014 3:27:20 PM PST by magna carta
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To: Cementjungle
His remarks, met with rapt attention in immigrant communities...

If I robbed a bank and was hiding in the bushes with the loot, I would meet an announcement that the police were not looking for me any more with rapt attention, too.

60 posted on 11/22/2014 3:35:07 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves (Heteropatriarchal Capitalist)
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