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To: Servant of the Cross; nathanbedford; C. Edmund Wright; xzins
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If SCOTUS had declared 0bamcare Unconstitutional in June 2012, hell would have been unleashed by the media and democRATS 24/7. The Left's base would have been energized beyond belief, literally frothing at the mouth. It would have been Citizens United on steroids ... (visual aid below)

And we would not have had the following events occur ....

* a TRAINWRECK of a website launch
* a vindication of religious freedom and the First Amendment in Hobby Lobby
* the REALITY of this piece of legislative garbage was neither Affordable nor Caring (DEATH PANELS)
* a running parody of the "if you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan ...."
etc. etc.

THIS WAY, the completely unConstitutional and unAmerican piece of garbage collapsed of its own making. The people saw it for the lies that it was and its proponents as the liars they are.

If it had been declared dead by SCOTUS in 2012, the liberal left would have made it a rallying cry and a cause for which they would die for. It would have been like the Roe v Wade decision, a never ending battle.

By allowing it to survive a very temporary Constitutional challenge in 2012, the Dread Pirate John Roberts truly put a stake in its heart forever.

10 posted on 11/19/2014 5:26:50 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Servant of the Cross

The Chief Justice of the United States rewrote a congressional statute. He usurped Article I Section 1.

I understand you think the results are swell. That is irrelevant.


18 posted on 11/19/2014 5:40:05 AM PST by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: Servant of the Cross
At the time, I wrote that while Roberts' decision was wrong IMHO, his blow against the commerce clause uses was huge. However, I think the question of whether this as a tax "originated in the senate" has been run up the court chain and rejected. I don't see how, constitutionally, but someone correct me if I'm wrong, that has been the ruling.

It will for the next 30 or so years be impossible to know if Roberts was a traitor, a genius who thought he was handing the Congress a constitutional way to eliminate this, or a fool who bungled the law. Most Freepers think the former, but I'm not sure.

All that said, I COMPLETELY disagree with your approach that "well, look at all the bad stuff that happened and opened peoples' eyes." This is trying to win by losing, and is almost always a bad plan. I fail to see how we have gained by having this obscenity now fixed into American law. Yes, horrible laws can be overturned (Sherman Silver Purchase Act, Prohibition), but their destruction is not worth the object lesson.

33 posted on 11/19/2014 6:08:07 AM PST by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: Servant of the Cross

I agree with what you said in #10.


35 posted on 11/19/2014 6:13:49 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. Eccl 12 V.13)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Interesting take.....I’ll chew on it.


43 posted on 11/19/2014 6:25:55 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: Servant of the Cross

I sorta think the same way. I still wish the Court would have dumped it on 10th Amendment grounds, but I can’t deny the benefit the pain created by it’s survival seems to have had on starting to awaken the apathetic American public to the consequences of their poor electoral decisions.


62 posted on 11/19/2014 10:22:38 AM PST by tanknetter
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