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Obama: "The fact that an adviser who was never on our staff ... ....

Gruber's disclosure that he was being paid by the White House (2nd page).

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Two earlier FR threads on this news.

Obama Flashback: ‘I’ve Stolen Ideas’ From Jonathan Gruber ‘Liberally’

Obama: I Have Stolen Ideas from Jon Gruber Liberally

1 posted on 11/18/2014 2:07:18 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"And I think it’s fair to say there was not a provision in the healthcare law that was not extensively debated and was fully transparent.”

I think it's fair to say that Obama is extensively and fully incapable of ever telling the truth.

2 posted on 11/18/2014 2:25:41 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away)
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“Obama: “The fact that an adviser who was never on our staff ... ....”

Absolutely a dopey response by Odunga. Why would Gruber take a small potato’s 170k a year staff Gubermint job when he could bilk 6 million over just a couple of years from various Gubermint entities as a contractor.


5 posted on 11/18/2014 2:44:36 AM PST by DAC21
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
President Obama said in 2006 that he had stolen ideas "liberally"

Well of course he did. How else would he have stolen them?

6 posted on 11/18/2014 2:46:52 AM PST by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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Obamas description of gruber as “ some guy not on outlet staff” reminds me of his some guy in the neighborhood” description of Bill Ayers


8 posted on 11/18/2014 2:50:33 AM PST by bike800
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What a liar.

I remember back then mentioning that bipartisanship was inherently ANTIDEBATE.

He never wanted a debate on it. The stuff was ram rodded and he even threatened supreme court dissenters.


11 posted on 11/18/2014 3:15:40 AM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; GOPJ; sickoflibs; ken5050; TADSLOS; Tennessee Nana; AuntB; stephenjohnbanker; ...
OBAMA ADDICTED TO PROGRESSIVE POISON: "The one thing we can’t say is that we did not have a lengthy debate about healthcare in the USA....I think it’s fair to say there was not a provision in the healthcare law that was not extensively debated, was fully transparent (and fully reported).”

Yes, there was a debate---but it was orchestrated by one voice---Jonathan Gruber.

<><> (1) WH sign-in sheets show Gruber went there at least nineteen times.

<><>(2) Gruber, himself, talked about Obama being in the room when the Cadillac tax was invented.

<><> (3) Based on his Obamacare experiences, Gruber took tax dollars from several states to set up Obamacare exchanges....and earned millions of dollars doing so.

<><>(4) Nancy Pelosi is caught on-tape citing Gruber as a reliable source.

<><> (5) Gruber was there when Hillarycare was developed.

<><>(6) Another Gruber confession involved a conspiracy w/ Teddy Kennedy---using govt fraud to manipulate Medicare for some $500 million----to secretly finance Romneycare.

<><>(7) A former adviser to then-HHS Secy Kathleen Sebelius told the NYT Gruber was on-board whie the govt was formulating the plan.

<><> (8) According BarackObama.com 2012, President Obama's official website, Jon Gruber "helped write Obamacare....w/ specific quotes from Obama tying Mitt Romney to ObamaCare...saying that "RomneyCare" was the model for Obamacare.

<><> (9) The Congressional Budget Office Effectively Used Gruber’s Model to Score Obamacare.

It's next to impossible to overestimate Gruber's role. Gruber was central to the efforts of Obama, and his lock-stepping Democratic allies, to shove the Progressive poison of Obamacare down the throats of an unwilling citizenry.

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One can only imagine the derision and deprecation of Americans in the halls of Congress, and in the WH, as Gruber reprised his "stupid Americans" act to an appreciative audience of lock-stepping Democrats.

Gruber took his "stupid Americans" act nationwide---paid millions of tax dollars to peddle his Progressive poison allover our country.

13 posted on 11/18/2014 3:23:19 AM PST by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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"We had a year-long debate,” Obama said. “Go look back at your stories.

I think "go back and look at the stories" actually is a dog whistle for "scrub your websites of anything incriminating".

15 posted on 11/18/2014 3:35:22 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (Es Mi Partido, Ahora!)
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Obama is a liar bump.


17 posted on 11/18/2014 3:52:47 AM PST by petercooper (Liberalism = Amnesty = Open Borders = Illegal Immigration = Ebola = Obama)
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Hannity played an audio tape yesterday of Pelosi encouraging everyone to look at gruber’s cost breakdown on obamacare...


19 posted on 11/18/2014 4:01:14 AM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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So, Obama was caught in a lie.
Imagine that. PERIOD!!!
21 posted on 11/18/2014 4:29:20 AM PST by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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The biggest question to me is: “Who started first?” We know that both Gruber and Obama are lying PsOS. I think that Gruber was simply a quivering metrosexual living in his parents basement, while Obama was out in the world honing his skills at lying and deceiving.


22 posted on 11/18/2014 4:43:37 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age did not end because we ran out of stones)
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0 is a liar. If he were Republican, the media would be all over this. However, the media are nothing but slavish lapdogs for the democrats.


23 posted on 11/18/2014 5:00:13 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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...each provision of ObamaCare was debated openly.
Yet the public didn't know that the whole thing was designed to be a tax. Too busy living their lives.

And people (including many here at FR) still wonder why Justice Roberts decided the case in the manner in which he did!

24 posted on 11/18/2014 5:32:05 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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Even CNN, amazingly, is reporting it...

Obamacare architect in 6th video: 'Mislabeling' helped us get rid of tax breaks
"It turns out politically it's really hard to get rid of," Gruber said. "And the only way we could get rid of it was first by mislabeling it, calling it a tax on insurance plans rather than a tax on people when we all know it's a tax on people who hold those insurance plans."

25 posted on 11/18/2014 5:41:00 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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