Posted on 11/17/2014 10:00:19 AM PST by SeekAndFind
That’s not quite his verbatim quote, but it’s pretty darn close:
“The problem is it’s a political nightmare, and people say ‘no, you can’t tax my benefits’…so what we did a lot in that room was think a lot about well how could we make this work? … And [Obama] is really a realistic guy. He was like, ‘look, I can’t just do this.’ He said ‘it’s just not going to happen politically. The bill will not pass. How do we manage to get there through phase-ins and other things?’ And we talked about it. He was just very interested in that topic.”
And why was Obama so keen on obscuring the nature of his signature law’s taxes? Perhaps because he’d just recently spent months relentlessly hammering John McCain over a proposal to tax health benefits “for the first time.” So he needed MacGruber to swoop in and help craft a strategy of evasion and deflection. Noah mentioned over the weekend that in his response to Grubergate, Obama insisted that he’d never misled the public on Obamacare (which virtually nobody really buys at this point, and for good reason) and disavowed Gruber’s seemingly endless damning comments. One formulation that stuck out to me was his assertion that Gruber “was never on our staff.” This is exceedingly weak spin. The video above contains evidence that the president was personally huddling with Gruber on the Obamacare sales pitch, charging him with fashioning accounting tricks that might provide a politically-necessary fig leaf — which Paul Ryan dismantled at the pre-passage “health care summit.” It’s impossible for the White House to just divorce itself from this guy. He was very much their guy. Not only did they furnish Gruber with $400,000 for his services, they made him a leading point person for “drafting the specifics” of the law with Congress. Via the New York Times:
Along with these credentials, Mr. Gruber’s position as an adviser to the influential Congressional Budget Office also left him perfectly positioned to advise the White House on health reform. “The most important arbiter of everything was the C.B.O.,” said Neera Tanden, who was a senior adviser for health reform at the Department of Health and Human Services. The C.B.O.’s assessment of a bill’s efficacy and costs strongly influences political debate, but the office does not publicly reveal how it calculates those numbers. “We knew the numbers he gave us would be close to where the C.B.O. was likely to come out,” Ms. Tanden said. She was right. After Mr. Gruber helped the administration put together the basic principles of the proposal, the White House lent him to Capitol Hill to help Congressional staff members draft the specifics of the legislation.
That 2012 profile also quotes Gruber cheerfully describing himself as a “card-carrying Democrat” who routinely holds election night “victory parties” with friends. (How did this year’s celebration go, I wonder?) Obama can try to pull a Pelosi with Gruber. Good luck with that. Alternatively, he can keep lying about not having lied, but only the hardest-core of partisans will believe him. Even Obamacare supporters like Ron Fournier are throwing in the towel, conceding that the law was constructed on a “foundation of lies.” Indeed.
You are right.
If we had a blood thirsty media like we did with Nixon, Obama would be hounded out of office.
‘I have noticed that all the Dems in DC have suddenly taken to wearing Groucho glasses and speaking in thick accents. “Zis Gruber fellow, I ‘ave nevair ‘eard of ‘im,” said Nancy Pelosi. “Ach, Gruber? Ze name iss not familiar,” said Barack 0bama.’
Hitler Finds Out Field Marshal Gruber Spilled the Beans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKhkQqA53v0
I hope Gruber doesn’t become intimidated to where he backs off from the truth or ends up dying mysteriously from a heart attack. Get it >all< out on the record, Jonathan. It was a norm for the Obamabots in higher levels to think in the way in which we see Gruber expressing in these videos.
Gruber is on the target sheet to destroy, you betcha. I would tell him to take all of the evidence that he has to a trusted US attorney pronto.
THis guys is gonna get Breitbarted if he doesn’t watch it.
“The fraud was Barry’s idea.”
That’s exactly what I posted on a thread yesterday. Gruber is an economist. He had nothing to do with the way Obamacare was represented. He wrote it and explained how it was drafted using Obama’s input.
What people seem to be missing is the quotes, although Grubers, are not his thoughts. They came directly from Obama and his staff.
This elitist POS is the gift that just keeps on giving...
I think Gruber assisted the fraud when asked to but it was 0fraudster’s idea. I suspect the same occurred in MA when Gruber references “ripping off the Federal gov. for $400 million dollars.” Most likely Romney or Teddy Kennedy came up with that scheme.
I have seen Gruber referred to that way. ‘The mouth that keeps on giving’.
Then 0bama bails them out cuz "it's too big a fraud to fail!"
Too bad it didn't involve a Hibatchi and some wet towels to seal off the bathroom door.
I said this the other day, accident in his near future.
you can’t because he has an even bigger idiot as vice president!
He should be encouraged... he’s providing a wealth of information.
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No Friends? I feel so sorry for Gruber, because it seems that of the hundreds of "friends" he made over the years, none have come out to defend him when Gruber said that he was an important member of Obama's team that created ObamaCare.
Sad. So sad.
Anyone who trusts this government,
the EXEMPT by their whim,
composed of sociopathic LIARS
without an ounce of accountability
(Thank you, EXEMPT Issa and EXEMPT Cummings, you crooks),
... is a fool.
God is Truth (it is His character), no lie can stand one whit in Heaven nor before him. So when men lie, they are trading the truth for the lie and then the consequence come in this life and for eternity.
But the Good news is that Jesus Christ died for the lies of folks like us so that we would not have to take the punishment forever and ever. He paid for it in His body on the cross, that folks who believe that He paid for all our sins and trust in Him alone to get us to heaven, would have the assurance of Heaven.
For He said "the one who believes me has Eternal Life" John 6:47
When folks lie like this, know they and those who carried the lies are in deep trouble and if they knew it would run away from them screaming. Luke 16:19-31
a little polonium 210 in his Starbucks?
Roberts is as big a crook as Gruber. Photos of Roberts about to enter the Vatican Bank on Malta tells a lot about this man. Along with all of these hijinks The English/USA lexicon now has a new word- ‘gruberism’ meaning to make up a lie and cover such with high sounding language from highly educated(not necessarily honest)college professors.
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