[Sirius Lee]

Irwin is intellectually bankrupt. Everybody does NOT commit fraud. The whole ‘deeming’ of the law as passed without the benefit of anybody even being allowed to read what was in it should be the first clue - and every Conservative knew, in live time, that a crime was under way - that the dems were committing legislative fraud.

[cripplecreek]

every Conservative knew, in live time, that a crime was under way

Damn straight we did and I will not miss a single opportunity to remind every liberal I encounter. Liberals were the stupid people Gruber was talking about and their elected officials were in on the joke.