Posted on 11/11/2014 4:16:42 PM PST by Nachum
Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber said Tuesday that he regrets saying that aspects of Obamacare needed to be concealed from the public due to the “stupidity of the American voter.” “Do you stand by the comments in that video?,” MSNBC host Ronan Farrow asked Gruber, referring to a video of Gruber explaining how a lack of transparency helped Obamacare pass into law. “The comments in the video were made at an academic conference,” Gruber said. “I was speaking off the cuff and I basically spoke inappropriately and I regret having made those comments.” Farrow then argued on Gruber’s behalf that
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He first met Barry, in 2006 to discuss Obamacare, before Barry had announced he was running. I thought THAT tidbet was interesting.
The description he has of Barry’s “intellect” is typical messiah worship. He is a diehard Dem.
I doubt that. He may regret getting caught.
“We are so stupid, he wrote a cartoon book in 2011”
Ha, Ha, I thought you were joking and that this was something that you photoshopped, but no, the thing is actually on Amazon and available to the retarded American public. This thing is comedy gold with the dumbed down illustrations, the picture of the smug Jon Gruber on the cover and the fake five star reviews that Gruber and his log-rolling friends have put on Amazon. This creep should be brought up on charges.
He shouldn’t regret it. Only stupid people would have voted for Barack Hussein Obama. He was 100% right on the money.
But he’s right about too many Americans being stupid. The election of people like obama, pelosi, al franken prove that
And look at those cartoon-like "stooopid" people he puts on the cover of his book. And the smart guy in the front with his thumb in the air, that must be Gruber himself.
They need to find out how many meeting Princess Fiona had with Gruber and Zeke Emanuel.
Then run ads asking her if they told her the same thing or did they Lie to her. Let her try to split those hairs. Especially since she held out for the Louisiana Purchase before she said she would vote for it! That alone would indicate
She knew it was a scam from the start.
Prof Gruber in one interview talks about the ‘genetic lottery’ that people who have been healthy, have benefited from ‘the system’ (health insurance, not paying their fair share). These quotes go way back.
This one from the pbs Frontline (about his meeting in 2009 with Barry re: Cadillac tax on employee insurance)
- it was very exciting, once again, because the economists in the room all said the number one thing you need to do is you need to take on the tax subsidy to employer-sponsored insurance. We need one minute of background on this. The way employer-sponsored insurance works is, if you get paid in wages, you get taxed. If you get paid in health insurance, you do not. ...
So this tax subsidy economists have been railing against for decades, it’s super-expensive. We forego about $250 billion per year in tax revenues. It’s regressive — the richer you are, the bigger tax break you get. And it’s inefficient because it causes people to buy excessive health insurance. So everyone in the room said, “You want something that is real cost control that we know it will work, go after this.”
Now, the problem is, it’s a political nightmare, ... and people say, “No, you can’t tax my benefits.” So what we did a lot in that room was talk about, well, how could we make this work? And Obama was like, “Well, you know” — I mean, he is really a realistic guy. He is like, “Look, I can’t just do this.” He said: “It is just not going to happen politically. The bill will not pass. How do we manage to get there through phases and other things?” And we talked about it. And he was just very interested in that topic.
Once again, that ultimately became the genesis of what is called the Cadillac tax in the health care bill, which I think is one of the most important and bravest parts of the health care law and doesn’t get nearly enough credit. I mean, this is the first time after years and years of urging — and the entire health policy, there was not one single health expert in America who is setting up a system from scratch, would have this employer subsidy in place. Not one.
So after years and years of us wanting to get rid of this, to finally go after it was just such a huge victory for health policy. And I’m just incredibly proud that he and the others who supported this law were willing to do it. ...
I think Bart Stupak needs to be brought in to answer a few questions as well. He was the very last yes vote and took the brass ring with a prize partnership at the premier DC lobbying firm of Venable LLP.
If congress doesn’t end this farce they should all be impeached or voted out of office ASAP. The people have spoken clearly on this issue - and we must not let our republican form of representational governance be subverted by a conspiracy of lies and deceit like this
Snopes updated their BS yet?
I imagine his study on smokers was reflected in the ACA penalty for smoking.
This is what he said in his paper about the smoking tax. Good grief, the Nanny State.
(1) smokers that smoked early wished they hadn’t
(2) smokers have a self control problem
okay, but this is his response as what to do.
Given this evidence, policymakers should not be applying the standard economics model [in which people are presumed to act rationally] to smoking policy, which would imply relatively little merit for features such as warning labels. Rather, it is important to consider alternative models that incorporate the type of evidence cited above. For example, my own research shows that if you treat all smokers as standard, rational, patient, forward-looking consumers, then we should probably tax cigarettes at below $1 per pack. But if you incorporate the self-control problems noted above — not even including the failures of teens to anticipate the future — the appropriate tax rises to $5 to $10 per pack.
http://newsoffice.mit.edu/2014/3-questions-jonathan-gruber-cost-smoking-1013
yep, Joke book for the joke-on-us
To tell the truth I’d like to beat the f out of this guy.
lol, I thought it was a joke, but it was mentioned in the many interviews with friendly media the guy has done.
This man is culpable along with all democrats for murder - the death of those whose insurance or access to life saving treatement due to this massive national fraud. He should be regarded as such as should anyone associated to him.
.... And bloodsuckers.
they had this on their site earlier. i was laughing while i was reading their response. they had ‘not enough info to render a response of true or false’. the video was edited and they didn’t have enough info that UofPenn had pulled it.
No he doesn’t. These losers always apologize thinking that is the last of the matter. This guy admitted fraud and he should be punished. Don’t let him get away with it.
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