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Our childish insistence on calling soldiers heroes deadens real democracy
Salon ^ | NOV 9th | David Masciotra

Posted on 11/09/2014 12:48:29 PM PST by OL Hickory

Put a man in uniform, preferably a white man, give him a gun, and Americans will worship him. It is a particularly childish trait, of a childlike culture, that insists on anointing all active military members and police officers as “heroes.”

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TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: davidmasciotra; fus; heros; not; salon; soldiers
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To: OL Hickory

Every person that enlists or is commissioned in the military agrees that they will follow orders, fight and possibly die for their country. They understand they may die, but they sign up anyway. Some may not think that is heroic, but I feel that the hero designation is not far off the mark.

Some military jobs are more heroic than others. I was an officer on a modern pig boat. I don’t feel that was heroic. The author mentions those carrying a gun - I say they are the most heroic of them all.


81 posted on 11/09/2014 3:07:22 PM PST by SoCal_Republican
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To: LeoWindhorse

Little David is a complete pant load who writes critical studies of Springsteen and John Mellencamp. Nuff said.


82 posted on 11/09/2014 3:09:01 PM PST by Argus
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To: stubernx98

Anyone has a right to make a hero out of anyone they please. Liberals would like to take that right away. They would decide who are heroes will be..... The HELL with that!


83 posted on 11/09/2014 3:11:53 PM PST by ArtDodger
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To: OL Hickory

He is trying to offend; ignore him...


84 posted on 11/09/2014 3:12:43 PM PST by drew
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To: OL Hickory

Yet he sees no problem in calling every black helpless victims of racism.

Childish indeed.


85 posted on 11/09/2014 3:29:43 PM PST by Henry Hnyellar
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To: ArtDodger

Are=our... sigh


86 posted on 11/09/2014 3:36:44 PM PST by ArtDodger
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To: OL Hickory

I was part of a large group of patriots who welcomed five bus loads of WWII vets to their Memorial in DC yesterday. They were there courtesy of Honor Flight.

They were white, black, female and male. Some were in wheelchairs. Some wore their medals and uniforms. All these men, whether or not they saw hard battle are absolute American heroes and deserve to be treated as heroes.

As each one made his way off the bus to the memorial, they came through our gauntlet. Handshakes, waves, smiles and tears. Some of these guys were overwhelmed that people would remember their service. One man in the crowd shook each veterans hand with the words “A grateful nation thanks you to your service.”

I dare anyone to attend such an event and the. Echo the idiocy that these guys are not heroes.


87 posted on 11/09/2014 3:40:03 PM PST by cyclotic (Join America's premier outdoor adventure association for boys-traillifeusa.com)
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To: OL Hickory

John Kerry , who served in Vietnam might be a source for this type of thinking.


88 posted on 11/09/2014 3:44:21 PM PST by ThomasThomas (EGO venit lego tantum titulus Posteri)
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To: OL Hickory

Go back to the country that you belong in, David Masciotra.


89 posted on 11/09/2014 3:44:48 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: mrsmel

You’re a good woman MrsMel!


90 posted on 11/09/2014 3:48:38 PM PST by jimmyo57
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To: OL Hickory

I recently had the pleasure and privilege of enjoying a two hour conversation with a hero of mine, Jesse Jackson.

I told Jackson that the work he did, along with Martin Luther King, Rosa Parks, Medgar Evers, and others, not only freed black people in the United States from a brutal system of apartheid, oppression, and exploitation (work that continues), but also saved me – a white man born in 1985 – from inheriting the role of occupier, oppressor, and executioner.

You can tell he hates his whiteness.


91 posted on 11/09/2014 3:50:43 PM PST by Gasshog (DemoKKKrats: Leaders of the Free Stuff World)
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To: central_va

I am using the definition of the word.

You are using another. That’s fine.


92 posted on 11/09/2014 3:54:25 PM PST by Vermont Lt (Ebola: Death is a lagging indicator.)
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To: OL Hickory
...just as the war in Iraq was clearly fought for the interests of empire, the profits of defense contractors, and the edification of neoconservative theorists.

Sure. That's why we have none of the oil resources and turned their country back over to them with a freely-elected government. Some empire.

The last time the U.S. military deployed to fight for the protection of American life was in World War II

Ah, no. Discounting Iraq - and I don't, but the argument in favor is too long for this thread - there was a Taliban government whose protected guests murdered 3000 Americans in New York. Taking that down was very definitely protecting Americans in a very literal sense.

Wars that are not heroic have no real heroes, except for the people who oppose those wars.

And out comes the 70's retread. No, Dave, stomping your feet in a country where your right to free speech is protected is not "heroic". All too often it's narcissistic, self-aggrandizing, and contemptuous of anyone who disagrees. This article, for example.

93 posted on 11/09/2014 3:59:59 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: OL Hickory

I prefer to call Salon moonbats cowards


94 posted on 11/09/2014 4:02:53 PM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: raybbr

I also agree to some extent. Like “racist,” the word “hero” has become so overused that its meaning has been devalued. I have been in action with many fine Marine Corps infantrymen, and their performance was typically magnificent. But the Corps’ high standard was expected of us, and we fought to live up to it. I’ve only known a handful of men who were true heroes; most of them are dead, and their memory is diminished when we call everybody a hero. But these days, everybody gets a trophy.


95 posted on 11/09/2014 4:07:50 PM PST by Always A Marine
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To: OL Hickory
From Wikipedia...Hero: "A hero (masculine) or heroine (feminine) (Ancient Greek: ἥρως, hḗrōs) refers to characters who, in the face of danger and adversity or from a position of weakness, display courage and/or the will for self-sacrifice—that is, heroism—for some greater good of all humanity. This definition originally referred to martial courage or excellence but extended to more general moral excellence. If "heroes" does not accurately describe the members of our all-volunteer military, I don't know what does... Sorry, Salon and Mr. Masciotra, but you would not know real heroes if one of them kicked your sorry metrosexual, punk ass...
96 posted on 11/09/2014 4:08:37 PM PST by elteemike (Light travels faster than sound...That's why so many people appear bright until you hear them speak!)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I remember 1966 when the libs were having a hissy fit because too many US soldiers killed in South Vietnam had Hispanic names.


97 posted on 11/09/2014 4:16:16 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“Give jackass a keyboard - preferably a minority or white guilt ridden jackass - let him fumble about searching for a point”......

What an assclown.

Rangers Lead the Way.


98 posted on 11/09/2014 4:35:01 PM PST by military cop (I carry a .45....cause they don't make a .46....)
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To: OL Hickory

IBTZ!


99 posted on 11/09/2014 4:43:20 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: OL Hickory

Put a man in uniform, preferably a white man, give him a gun, and Americans will worship him.

Put a hoodie on preferably a black man, give him a gun and
Obama, Jackson, and Sharpton will worship him.


100 posted on 11/09/2014 5:09:49 PM PST by bikerman (any day above ground is a good day)
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