Posted on 11/06/2014 10:50:08 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
Exactly; Boner fits in there somewhere.
There is absolutely no reason to negotiate with the marixts/socialists in the Dim party.
Effective political leaders/negotiators would start with a full repeal, which is available to them, and force O to capitulate or veto it. It may even be they will scare up a sufficient number of Dims to obtain a veto-proof majority.
If he/they fail to support repeal, they could shove that down the Dim's throats in the 2016 elections.
In a way this has advantages.
The GOP can highlight a “Crappy Feature of Obamacare Of The Week” and draw the public’s attention to it as they force Barry to veto the bill.
Obamacare unfortunately will remain the law of the land as long as BHO is president. BHO will veto any effort to repeal it or significantly scale it back. It’s his signature law and knowing how big his ego is, he would never do anything which would repeal or weaken it.
Elections have consequences, VERY REAL CONSEQUENCES. Back in 2008 BHO was elected POTUS along with huge DEM majorities in both houses of Congress. Shortly thereafter they used their huge majorities to pass Obamacare which was signed by BHO into law and then later upheld by the SCOTUS.
The only way to fully get rid of the entire law is to elect a GOP POTUS and Congress dedicated to repealing it.
People need to know that when you elect Democrats to office this is the kind of crap we get stuck with and it is VERY difficult to undue the damage once it has been passed into law and enacted.
“Medical device” is loaded with graft and corruption.
Yes! The companies in the medical device business are as crooked and corrupt as the drug companies. But to strip them of the “cover” of their insurance costs, something needs to be done with respect to all these ambulance chasing lawyers who advertise on TV and the underlying need for hefty product liability insurance policies. They are raping the whole country under the guise of “protecting our rights.”
WUSSIE!
We conservatives told you GOPe supporters that the GOPe really supports 0bamacare. They refuse to put it up for a full repeal, because at core THEY LIKE BIGGER GOVERNMENT SO LONG AS THEY CONTROL IT.
Sure glad this wasn’t a gunfight. {;^)
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That doesn’t make any sense.
People already know what’s doing that. And they know that Obama is fully behind it.
So when he vetos a blanket repeal of it, he will stand up and say:
“I will not destroy the Affordable Care Act”
See why they gave it that name?
And then his lackies and press whores will rally to him for “saving” health care.
Now send him a repeal of the individual mandate, which everyone knows and absolutely hates, and make him then stand there and defend forcing people to buy health insurance under threat of the IRS.
Then start sending other provisions that people hate as much. Keep forcing the Democrats in the Senate to stand with those hated parts. Keep forcing Obama to defend them too.
One blanket repeal (that is guaranteed to fail) will be met by what? Another 14 attempts. The fickle public will start to get tired of what they see as the GOP just “wasting time” real quick.
Good.
Shut down the government.
That’s his only card. Make him play it NOW.
The Medical Device Tax is obviously a red herring, an unpopular and stupid “throwaway law” to make it appear they are doing something by repealing it.
The bottom line is that the Chamber of Commerce *supports* the equivalent of Obamacare, or even single payer socialized medicine. This is because the taxpayers will be paying for the healthcare of their employees, so they don’t have to.
So McConnell will likely do whatever he can to preserve Obamacare, with this eventual goal in mind.
Good, just DO IT!
Pass a full repeal. Let Zero veto it. Then pass repeals of the most obnoxious parts of it. Let Zero veto those, and hope to get enough worried cross-overs to override some of the vetos.
Doesn't hurt to get it on the record, though.
Anyway, it sounds to me like the "individual mandate" is the heart of Obamacare.
ObamaCare imposes a new requirement on all U.S. citizens and legal residents to obtain government-approved health insurance...I still want full repeal. And I still don't trust Mitch.Beginning in 2014, the federal government will impose new fines on citizens and legal residents who do not obtain government-approved insurance. Those without insurance will pay a tax that is the greater of a flat fee, or a percentage of family income. The flat fee will be phased in over several years. In 2014, the penalty will be $95 per adult in an uninsured household, increasing to $325 in 2015, then to $695 in 2016, after which it will increase annually in line with consumer inflation. For uninsured children, the fine will be half the amount applied to uninsured adults. If greater, households pay 1 percent of their income in 2014, 2 percent in 2015, and 2.5 percent in 2016 and thereafter in lieu of the flat per person fee.
uhh... are you paying any attention at ALL??? Of COURSE Obama will relish vetoing it. He’ll have a whole room full of people supposedly “helped” by Obamacare in the room with him while he does it to.
He signed it. His name is on it for crying out loud. I think the American people are already aware it belongs to him....
A long list of vetoes of very small changes will cause the dems to look quite petty. which will help in 2016.
Last I checked the House voted to repeal Obamacare something like 40 times.
Harry Reid simply ignored it. Now there is a slim GOP majority in the US Senate. They, too, can pass bills all day long to repeal to Obamacare. And BHO will simply veto them the moment they arrive on his desk. He’ll even interrupt his golf game if necessary to do so and with gusto.
The only way to get rid of Obamacare once and for all in its entirety is to elect a GOP POTUS and Congress dedicated to repealing it. There is no way around it. ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES. Voting for Dems gives you crap like Obamacare. It’s really quite simple: Don’t vote for Dems and you won’t get crap like Obamacare. It’s going to be very tough to undue it now, especially since the SCOTUS has upheld it.
When will the IRS and Benghazi hearings start? It is way past time for someone to pay.
The medical device tax is SMALL BALL.
Do Keystone to weaken the president first, then start demanding the repeal of Obamacare entirely
It is not Constitutionally required to “pass a budget.” The only references are:
Article I Section. 7. All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives;
Article I Section. 8. The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States;
Nothing about a budget. The “continuing resolutions” are Constitutional. But that doesn’t mean they are sound fiscal policy.
Right on cue.
You Apologists and Party Hacks for the Ruling Class Establishment are so damn predictable.
We had this talking point nailed as the excuse that would be sold for surrender and do-nothingness BEFORE the election. Yet you guys continued the attempts to intimidate, shame and castigate those who refused to hold their noses and vote for your Establishment Fascists.
Just like the liberals for the Democrats, the liberals in the GOP will always come up with excuses for their overt treason to the Conservative cause.
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