[Diogenesis]

A combined influenza and Ebola infection in one
individual will give the lethal spray
that the undocumented Tyrant Obola
and the EXEMPT treasonous Congress desperately want.

[Paladin2]

"It may not be absolutely true that those without symptoms can’t transmit the disease, because we don’t have the numbers to back that up,” said Beutler, “It could be people develop significant viremia [where viruses enter the bloodstream and gain access to the rest of the body], and become able to transmit the disease before they have a fever, even. People may have said that without symptoms you can’t transmit Ebola. I’m not sure about that being 100 percent true. There’s a lot of variation with viruses.”"

Well, Duh!

If it only takes 1 to 10 virii to infect one, somehow obtaining 10 from a person infected but not yet showing symptoms but "leaking" virii is a definite possibility.

Dr. 0bola's (Political) "Science" not withstanding....

[GrandJediMasterYoda]

Don’t worry, everything is under control. It’s a good thing our President is from Africa because that means he has experience in this area which I’m sure that is why he demanded Christie release the girl from quarantine and why he’s about to import foreigners with Ebola because he is an expert in the matter. We are so lucky.

[CaptainK]

Dr. Beutler sounds like an hysteric.

[exDemMom]

Ebola is a lot larger than viruses that can go airborne. And it does not infect respiratory cells that secrete mucous.

Also, the virus may not be in the blood even when symptoms start. The first blood test on symptomatic patients is often negative, but will be positive a couple of days later. Ebola grows very well in the liver—an organ that no one is ever going to see or accidentally touch, under normal circumstances.

[ExTxMarine]

Do you REALLY need a Doctor's degree or Nobel Prize to understand that people who may have a deadly disease, which can't be ruled out until 21 days have passed, should be quarantined for 21 days?

Once again, it is the liberal nutjobs trying to convince us that nature isn't natural!! I mean diseases which need humans to survive, will find away to be transmitted! Unless WE HUMANS do something (like quarantining) to STOP that transmission!!

[GrandJediMasterYoda]

See the thing about this virus is nobody is crazy enough to test how it gets transmitted. Hello, who first would like to volunteer and see if they contract this incurable disease that dissolves your insides in 3 weeks? So all this stuff the treasonists are spewing like “You can only catch it from bodily fluids” is utter BS. Nobody really knows. We got two nurses in Dallas who contracted it covered in protective gear and the excuse we were given was “Their necks were exposed”. So what did they do, pick up Thomas Duncans vomit and rub on an open wound on their necks? Bullcrap. They got it some other way besides a transfer of bodily fluids. This isn’t AIDS where you get it from anal sex or sharing needles, this stuff lives outside the body long enough where these nurses got it which makes it insanely dangerous and this absolutely psychopath from hell in the Whitehouse is hellbent on importing it. Anyone read this yet?

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/10/27/Exclusive-Obama-Plans-to-Import-Ebola-infected-Foreigners-from-Other-Countries

[ilgipper]

Not much of a Christie fan anymore, but his call is a good one. Whatever the far left disagrees with is ‘controversial’ in this society since around 2000. Radical changes in the definition of marriage - ‘not controversial’.

Common sense precautions - ‘controversial’

[greeneyes]

Tell that to the whiner from Maine.

[Chgogal]

Ping

[null and void]

Bring out your dead! The Dark Man cometh! Bring out your dead! The Dark Man cometh! Bring out your......

(hat tip to: fivecatsandadog!)

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

[amihow]

I remember personally and have heard first hand accounts of quarantines in the days when reason, rather than leftist feelings dominated society.

The person exposed was quarantined in a place, usually their home for the duration of the incubation period. There was a huge sign on the door announcing the quarantine. They did not leave. Food, medicine and needs were delivered to the doorstep and left there. When the incubation period was over, they were allowed to go out.

Stupid politicians and poorly trained doctors would have never behaved like our current crop. They did not play Russian Roulette with the citizens of their country. They loved their people and their professions.

These idiots we have now are political and professional narcissits who do not care for anyone. Just their own, unethical and unprofessional opinions. Shame on them and their ilk.

[amihow]

And P.S. Remember, the few people treated in the United States have had very specialized treatment such as great supportive care, anti-viral meds and transfusions from recovered patients. Such treatment will NOT be available for you or me. Maybe for Obama and his minions, but not for us. There is not enough of that type of treatment to go around very far.

If people are brought here for treatment it will spread quickly and be a disaster.

[Smokin' Joe]

Ping...

A link to this thread has been posted on the Ebola Surveillance Thread

[Ancesthntr]

The problem with Christie’s quarantine (besides the fact that it doesn’t exist any longer) is that it depends on people telling investigators the truth. Note that it covers those coming from West Africa (OK, can’t really fool anyone there - this is a good start) WHO HAVE HAD CLOSE CONTACT WITH EBOLA PATIENTS.

Uh, excuse me, but Thomas Duncan got into this country from West Africa and LIED about close contact with Ebola patients. This quarantine would not have stopped him.

Further, even if someone is suspicious and they “super investigate” him (with a thermometer - wow, what a high-tech instrument, was it invented by the CIA?), you still have the problem that: a) it is easy to mask a high temperature on a temporary basis with aspirin or some other pain reliever (more high-tech stuff); b) 5% are asymptomatic after 21 days and 2% after 42(!!!) days; and c) many people don’t manifest Ebola with a high temp (up to 13% NEVER show a high temp until they are in the final stages of the disease (and then they aren’t traveling on their own power).

As mentioned, even a 21-day period only gets 95% of the people with Ebola. Sorry, but I’m not too partial to having a 5% error rate on a communicable disease with a 70% fatality rate (which fatalities occur only after your insides are liquified). Thanks, but no thanks.

Christie’s quarantine is, at best, a half measure. The only guaranteed measure is to do as the Aussies have done - revoke visas for ANYONE coming from West Africa, PERIOD. If they are a citizen or permanent resident, into quarantine for at least 60 days. Don’t like it? T.S. - then don’t go to that $hithole to begin with or, if you do, understand and deal with the quarantine on the back end of your trip.