Posted on 10/28/2014 11:12:10 AM PDT by JoanVarga
Knowingly enabling infectious fatal diseases to spread is part of the psychotic breakdown going on in DC. They've dragged their feet to where talk of preventing Ebola in the US is transparent pretence. Even aside from Obama, the key people aren't serious about timely containment. The CDC's director, Thomas Frieden, is an MD who let his license lapse years ago, recruited from Bloomberg's NY City where he enforced the mayor's medicalized nannyism: a ban on large soft drinks, a smoking ban, a salt ban, a transfats ban, mandatory calorie counts at restaurants and other because-we-can harassment. Another team player is Obama's Ebola Kommissar, a political fixer whose job is to prettify the ugly truth until the election and beyond, with eager support by our incurious news media.
As if Ebola weren't enough, DHS has imported illegal alien kids known to be carriers of serious infectious diseases such as enterovirus D68, escorted them directly from our southern border into the—formerly, our—schools in every state art-link-symbol-tiny-grey-arrow-only-rev01.gif. Some physicians are braving persecution as whistle blowers and speaking out, as in this amazing article:
Soon, after school doors opened this semester, doctors and hospitals across the country began tackling massive flare-ups of infectious diseases and severe respiratory illness among children. Experts have called these outbreak unprecedented. “It's worse in terms of scope of critically ill children who require intensive care” ... I've practiced for 30 years in pediatrics, and I've never seen anything quite like this...” Hospitals throughout America are reporting record breaking numbers as their emergency rooms are overwhelmed beyond capacity. Jack Dennis at examiner.com
This is what we get for electing an affirmative action president with forged credentials, schooled in Islam in his youth, tutored in his teen years by a revolutionary Marxist and convicted pedophile, an adoring student of a black supremacy cult in adulthood, whose political career was kick started by a violent extremist with Final Solution ambitions for tens of millions of us, and whose administration features suspiciously large numbers of covert jihadists, race warriors and other deranged extremists. These enterovirus D68 outbreaks aren't accidental, they're the equivalent of a broad front biological attack, coordinated and carried out by agencies in DC best equipped to predict the results of what they've done. DC is taking multiculturalism to insane, homicidal levels. If there's an explanation that better fits the facts than intentional ethnic attrition, it hasn't appeared yet.
Craig Spencer, the "dedicated humanitarian" doctor who returned to New York City from Guinea where he was treating Ebola victims, then was diagnosed with the disease himself, should have been quarantined in situ before returning. He had every right to go to an Ebola infested pest hole and do his thing, knowing the risk of infection. But he doesn't have the right to risk the life of bystanders. And here again the authorities made avoidable errors from an excess of deference and sunny suppositions.
First the New York City Department of Health said he gallantly self-quarantined, then they admitted he took cabs and the subway to go out dining and bowling a few hours before testing positive. What has he said that wasn't a lie? Looks like an Earth First tactic, Ebola at 550 mph. Hey doc, how about a little "humanitarian" concern for those of us unbedazzled by suicidal self-sacrifice, or is Doctors Without Borders a terrorist outfit in disguise? What else should we think about those who introduce Ebola where it wasn't before? Shall we believe our possible deaths are an unfortunate but acceptable side effect of an otherwise noble venture? If Doctors Without Borders believes we're grateful for the privilege of dying for their cause they've been misinformed, most of us remain unconvinced the world is in any danger of running out of West Africans in the first place.
The city says they've learned from the Dallas disaster, which is true, like Dallas they've assured us there's nothing to worry about, on no grounds whatever—a near equivalent to lying. We notice they get hysterical telling us to remain calm. Please excuse us for worrying about agony and death from a disease that liquifies our innards and can be contracted from normal looking 'dead men walking'. We also notice they choose their words carefully, as lawyers do, misleading us by using strict definitions laymen have no reason to know, the difference between "airborne" and "aerosol transmission" for instance. What we think their words mean could cost us our lives. In the same spirit of non-disclosure, the city's rescue teams have been instructed to not use the word "Ebola" or related terms in their communications. The city has instead issued innocuous sounding code phrases. And so it is they squander what little confidence remains.
Credibility can survive failure, but not a series of avoidable failures, nor unprofessional antics, condescending kiddy-talk, outright stupidity and clumsy lies. We've seen "medicine by opinion" and it doesn't work. A less extravagant medical establishment would serve us just as well, perhaps better; less unproductive weight to carry around, less justifying the unjustifiable and fewer disastrous public relations gigs trying to protect appearances.
I feel like everyone responsible for bringing this atrocity into our country needs to be shot, burned, tarred, feathered, drawn, quartered, shot some more, and then soundly chastised.
No. The plasma bit is much like a desperate last ditch attempt to do something or anything. The antibodies floating around in plasma after recovery although high compared to a few years from now, are insignificant to someone in the throws of the disease.
Normally, antibodies are circulating in sufficient numbers to kill off a small number of virons that you catch from another diseased person or the environment. Not the trillions of virons that are circulating when you are really sick.
But that’s just it: how are these folks recovering with 100% (so far) recovery rates? They catch it early and treat with plasma donations. They even do this in West Africa.
I get that by the time you’re dissolving it’s too late.
Duncan wasn’t given plasma because there was no compatible source, AND he was pretty far gone. Does the point remain that having antibodies in great supply and early on makes for the most successful rate of survival?
It is from the article, of course, and it is striking because it is not based on the author's opinion. It is based on facts in the public record that was available to all.
It does reasonably appear that anti-American forces are not just merely at the gates, but rather now within the compound.
I blame the politicians for this failure. Americans hired them and paid them handsomely to guard against this very danger. Their only excuse can be that they had compelling evidence HC indeed presented the greater threat.
“... to someone in the throws of the disease.”
It is “throes”; I suppose one could argue it is “throw-ups” if one wanted to dissemble.
Ultimately your body has to produce its own antibodies. There are lots of survivors who got essentially no treatment. They survived by an immune response even while Ebola attacked their immune system.
Do you conclude that there is no impetus or advantage in having plasma donors on hand?
1.The fact that they do this in West Africa (death rates 70-90%) should give you a sense of the desperation to do something, anything including catch malaria and HIV.
2. The peak viral load is about day 8 (fever, malaise). The meltdown is the result of a runaway inflammatory response by the body in its futile attempt to kill the virus (hemorrhage, vomiting, diarrhea). Now shedding all the virions made back on day 8.
3. We won't know about our success rate until there are more cases. A study where n=4 is unlikely to be significant.
5. We may end up with better outcomes because of better care and more aggressive use of anti-inflammatories so the patient has time to mount the CD-8 T-cell immune response.
So educated and still incapable of writing a coherent sentence!
Thank you. That is more in line with the sort of information I’m trying to get my mind around. It’s a multi-faceted approach: drugs, transfusions, protocols. The one standout in the media seems to keep coming back as plasma donation and I don’t get a clear picture of other attempts. The experimental drug was a big deal, yes? But we don’t hear much about its interaction in these subsequent cases.
Yes, Unlike the donated plasma Zmapp is a huge dose of monoclonal antibodies, binding to the viron, transferring the virus to the macrophage to be processed by the immune system (activating T-cells which kill infected cells).
Unless the patient gets early activation of CD-8 T-cells they almost all die.
This is an RNA retrovirus. HIV is also an RNA retrovirus (the similarities end there) and there are anti-virals that may also be effective. These are prohibitively expensive for West Africa but may be doable in first world countries.
An effective vaccine may be possible but remember we've been looking for a vaccine for HIV to no effect.
UN Agenda 21 calls for the Earth’s population to be reduced by 85%. Ebola may be the tool.
Plasma donation seems to help. I guess it is a mystery right now how patients recover. Unfortunately we are going to run the experiment some more here so we shall see how well it works in a few more cases.
I suspect something else is the tool, which is unable to be halted, but this Administration needs ebola to be the scapegoat to avoid accountability.
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