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Paying Taxes and Going to Jail Like Adults; Teens Deserve the Right to Vote, Too (Daily Beast)
The Daily Beast ^ | 10/06/14 | Jillian Keenan

Posted on 10/21/2014 2:26:08 PM PDT by Faith Presses On

Right now, millions of Americans are disenfranchised by our political process. They can pay taxes and contribute to social security, but they can’t vote. They can be sentenced to life in prison, but they can’t vote. Every day, their bodies, lives and futures are affected by politicians and policies they did not choose. Who am I talking about? Felons? Guess again.

We need to lower the voting age.

This is a prime moment to ask ourselves whether our voting system is yet fully equitable. Last month, Scotland made history when, for the first time in British politics, 16- and 17-year olds were allowed to vote in its independence referendum. Last year, Takoma Park in Maryland took a similar step when it allowed 16- and 17-year-olds to vote in municipal elections. That’s progress, but those steps don’t go far enough. In the forthcoming national midterm elections—and in all elections throughout the United States—teenagers deserve the right to vote. Seriously.

Okay, not all teenagers. Only the ones who can work and pay taxes on their employment—which the Department of Labor says is anyone over the age of 14. (Sorry, 13-year-olds.) Taxes are an obvious benchmark, since right now, employed teenagers are literally subjected to taxation without representation.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: accountability; adulthood; ageofconsent; dailybeast; dncbrownshirts; dnctalkingpoints; goebbelswouldbeproud; howtostealanelection; jilliankeenan; newsweek; uninformedvoters; yellowjournalism
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To: Faith Presses On

Now *that’s* an idea! If you’re a citizen who pays taxes, you have the right to vote!

So if you pay the federal income tax, you can vote in federal elections; and if you pay state income taxes, you can vote in state elections.

Let’s call the idea “Peak Government”. That there is only so much government to go around, so it has to be rationed this way, to the most productive members of society.


41 posted on 10/21/2014 3:35:24 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: Faith Presses On

Tie the age to vote to the age for CCW.


42 posted on 10/21/2014 3:38:30 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Faith Presses On

Wow. Well I guess the younger they are the more easy to control. People tend to be more liberal at younger ages too. No wonder the left wants them to vote younger.

Personally I think it should be 21.


43 posted on 10/21/2014 4:08:01 PM PDT by vpintheak (Keep calm and Rain Steel!)
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To: Faith Presses On

Ah, no.


44 posted on 10/21/2014 4:11:21 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Faith Presses On

We need fewer voters rather than more.


45 posted on 10/21/2014 4:12:17 PM PDT by all the best
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To: Faith Presses On

Little children have to pay sales tax when they buy stuff: should they have the right to vote.

They’re supposed to collect sales tax too when they have lemonade and bake stands in some areas: should they have the right to vote too?


46 posted on 10/21/2014 4:25:51 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Faith Presses On

I’d be embarrassed to have written an article like this.


47 posted on 10/21/2014 4:54:33 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Arthur McGowan

Your idea puts a married man’s ability to vote in the hands of his wife. If she leaves, he is penalized.

I disagree with your premise.

However, I would also state that being a net taxpayer should be a prerequisite to vote. (We can haggle about whether government employees are net taxpayers, too!)


48 posted on 10/21/2014 4:54:37 PM PDT by MortMan (All those in favor of gun control raise both hands!)
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To: Faith Presses On

No ... they don’t. Too many out there already that vote according to their emotions, we don’t need more of that.

Perhaps we should revert back to property owners only are the ones allowed to vote.


49 posted on 10/21/2014 5:05:26 PM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: MortMan

Yes. If a marriage fails, the man can no longer vote.

That’s not a bug; it’s a feature.

It’s not “penalizing” him. It’s maintaining the principle that government should be in the hands of people who are successful adults with an investment in the future. I.e., married men living with their children. No shack-ups. No welfare “moms.” No transient men living off women’s welfare checks.

The point of my proposal is that the basic unit of society is the functional family, not the failed family, and not the atomized individual.


50 posted on 10/21/2014 5:44:52 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: a fool in paradise

Newsweak still exists??

why?


51 posted on 10/21/2014 5:54:03 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Billthedrill

I’m not married, either.

I am against government schools, so that takes care of the business about paying for other people’s children’s education.

You say that, because you get to vote, you have a say in how “your money” is disbursed. So you’re saying you votef YES on giving Solyndra $500 million? You voted YES on the Chrysler/GM bailout? You voted YES on giving Obama’s union cronies several trillions?


52 posted on 10/21/2014 6:15:09 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan
So you’re saying you votef YES on giving Solyndra $500 million? You voted YES on the Chrysler/GM bailout? You voted YES on giving Obama’s union cronies several trillions?

No, I'm saying none of those things, in fact, they'd be pretty silly things to say, wouldn't they? I find it irritating when my point is deliberately misrepresented like that. You can't be seriously suggesting that to vote is to provide blanket approval for the winning side's government policy even if you vote against it, can you?

Yes, a vote is a citizen's voice. It does not mean that the election will go his way. It does not mean that the resulting government will behave either as he wants or as they promise they will. But he does have a say. And I would lay, and have laid, my life on the line to hold and protect that right, and I would be cross to the point of physical violence with anyone who tried to take it away.

And so would you. Admit it. :-)

53 posted on 10/21/2014 6:55:25 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

No, I wouldn’t. I think my vote is far, far less important than most of the other “freedoms” I have. I would give up my vote if I could be certain to get rid of the 16th, 17th, and 19th amendments, Soshecurity, welfare, government schooling, the EPA, and a few other things I can’t think of at the moment.

I am, however, in favor of draconian sentences for vote fraud.


54 posted on 10/21/2014 7:07:03 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan
I am, however, in favor of draconian sentences for vote fraud.

Sign me up for that one. Best to you.

55 posted on 10/21/2014 7:07:57 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Arthur McGowan

You would disenfranchise half the military? I think not!

More than on few young serviceman has lost a marriage— it’s hard being a military wife and damned near impossible when you’re young, stupid and your new spouse (who never left home before)is now 3000 miles from home and you’re deployed again...


56 posted on 10/21/2014 7:12:40 PM PDT by antidisestablishment (When the passion of your convictions surpass those of your leader, it's past time for a change.)
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To: Faith Presses On
If they can't sign a contract on their own until they are emancipated, then they are not legally entitled to vote, either.

-PJ

57 posted on 10/21/2014 7:20:34 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Politicalkiddo

As a teen, I disagree. It’s obviously another ploy to get stupid young people to vote Democrat. Raise the minimum voting age to 30.
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Like your style, young lady! I’ll admit that I didn’t really begin to understand politics until my late 20s-early 30s.

I had finished Navy active duty by age 20, so could vote at 21. Didn’t know what I was doing, but just kinda followed what my parents did (voting Dem). I was stupid at that age, though married and with a baby. I woke up about ten years later!


58 posted on 10/21/2014 10:49:48 PM PDT by octex
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To: Faith Presses On

I started paying income taxes when I was 8, so what?

Most 21 year olds tody aren’t smart enough to vote.

We need to return to the origional criteria, male, white property owners.

My mother said when they gave women the vote was the stupedist thing they ever did. She said sh got her votes in at the dinner table and bedroom!!!


59 posted on 10/21/2014 11:00:49 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Arthur McGowan

I’m not sure how to rationalize the removal of the ability to vote based on what could be *entirely* another person’s decision isn’t a penalty.

Needless to say, we disagree.

Have a great day, FRiend.


60 posted on 10/21/2014 11:20:20 PM PDT by MortMan (All those in favor of gun control raise both hands!)
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