Women warriors terrifying the jihadis who believe if they're killed by female they won't make heaven

Daily Mail ^ | 10/18/2014 | By SAM GREENHILL

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Exclusive: Savage women warriors terrifying the jihadis who believe if they're killed by a female they won't go to heaven

• Army of women in desperate battle to defend Kobane from Islamic State
• Nesrin Abdi carries rifle in case she is captured and needs to shoot herself
• The medical student is a part of an all female wing of the Kurdish army
• Says ISIS militants are terrified of being killed by a woman and fear they won't go to heaven

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  You wouldn’t know it from her sweet smile, but the reason why Nesrin Abdi carries a rifle is in case she needs to shoot herself dead.
  
  This, she explained matter-of-factly, would be preferable to being captured by the monsters of Islamic State. Nesrin, a 20-year-old medical student, is by all accounts a happy, well-educated, middle-class young woman with an infectious joy for life.
  
  In her home town of Kobane on the Syria-Turkey border, moments of joy are rare, but a photograph captures the triumphant moment three days ago when she was among Kurdish fighters who recaptured a strategic hill from the Islamic State invaders.
  
  The jihadis’ sinister black flag was torn down and replaced with a fluttering Kurdish red-and-yellow banner, marking what may well prove a symbolic turning point in the life-and-death struggle for the besieged town.
  
  
  But Nesrin, a doctor’s daughter who has joined an army of women battling to defend Kobane, is aware that every day could be her last.
  
  

[wardaddy]

http://www.vox.com/cards/isis-myths-iraq/isis-female-soldiers

[reasonisfaith]

If ISIS or anyone else tries to bring their brutality over here, they will be looking down the barrels of 80 to 100 million guns held by women and men of all sizes, shapes and colors.

[cloudmountain]

Their ‘educated population” thinks Sharia Law and public beheadings is a good thing.

Public punishments happened on Friday morning: whippings, hand-chopping-off and beheadings. We were outside of a fairly small town.
There was only ONE public punishment, just one, in the entire five years we were there and it was a beheading.The guy had committed murder.

We never went to that public square, ever, for any reason. The entire idea was BARBARIC. Muslims and Sharia law...they're hand in hand. We saw that BARBARIANISM and it still appalls me to think of it.

I thank the Lord every day for being born a Christian in the West.
I know we have capital punishment here, but it sure isn't PUBLIC.

[reasonisfaith]

I’m against sending U.S. women into combat. Totally different situation.

But I get a thrill hearing about jihadis in the middle east being afraid of women protecting their children with rifles.

Best idea yet from over there.

[cloudmountain]

You assume that these women have a choice to leave this area. You point out that others are just quessing what is going on over there while you have been there. I would like to know when the last time you were in the Kurds area? Was it since ISIL had moved in. My guess is you have not been there anytime recently. I agree that women in hand to hand combat is not a good thing. I also agree if women could be left in the rear it would be better. That said I don’t believe that is possible here. I believe the videos put out by ISIL to be true more than your opinion. If you would care to look at what they do to people you would see that it does not matter if you are are a woman or child. Theywill do with you what they want. Therefore this women may have no choice but to fight. And let’s face it does not take much to shot a rifle or pistol. Both of these can be used to prevent hand to hand combat. My impression of you is that you have lived a sheltered life and you are ignorant of what you profess to know so much about.

When YOU have lived in a strict Muslim country for FIVE years you can start lecturing to me. Until then, give it a rest. We saw what we saw. You have no better solutions for them than I or they have. They will do whatever they have to do to survive.
مع السلامة

[TexasGator]

“I know we have capital punishment here, but it sure isn’t PUBLIC.”

Us versus them:

We are presumed innocent until proven guilty.

We are tried by a jury of our peers.

We have sentencing hearings.

They have one religious dude that makes up a judgement depending on how he feels that day.

[cloudmountain]

Us versus them:
We are presumed innocent until proven guilty.
We are tried by a jury of our peers.
We have sentencing hearings.
They have one religious dude that makes up a judgement depending on how he feels that day.

To tell you the truth I don't know the particulars of the current Saudi justice system. It's changed tremendously over the years, especially with the influx of all the other nationals working and living there.

I do know that if an American breaks the law in a BIG WAY, the COMPANY (not the country, because I don't know) sends the wife and children home and the MAN goes to a Saudi prison...and rots.

They DO have prisons and even ONE woman's prison.

[jmacusa]

At the core of feminism is the ‘&rsquo victim and ;grievance mentality’’. It's simple and it's pernicious at the same time. Everything that happens to women(marriage, birth, pay-check inequality, rape, etc.) is because women have no power. (i.e, political. sexual, physical) is because men(hetero-sexual white males) have traditionally held all the power(not minority males because white men denied them that power) ergo every woman who subscribes to feminism must be baptized in this ''victim'' mantra or it won't work. Everything then therefor is the fault of white hetero-sexual males denying women power. Any woman who doesn't buy into this is an outcast because they expose the myth of victimhood. This is why feminists are dead set against the 2A because it truly empowers women not to be victims of male violence.

[ladyrustic]

Wow, rage much?

I disagree in any case. Good on her for willing to risk it all to fight against those who would force her to wear a black sack and submit to an 80 year old man.

I would rather fight too, and die trying, rather than become a slave.

[Ghost of SVR4]

I think I recall you; you’re the one that was boasting not too long ago about living overseas, working for an American company and boasting of not paying taxes and making out like bandits all the while ridiculing others in this country who were/are picking up your slack...I’ll have to go hunt those posts of yours down; very enlightening as to the “type” you are.

[PapaBear3625]

Also, women are no match, physically, for men and WE ALL know that. Rape isn't a pretty thing, but it does happen, even to young women who are armed. The day may come when she is gang-raped. I pray that it never happens, but she IS putting herself out there, living with and among men, NOT living in a safe, protected home with her family, relatives and friends and trying to be a soldier--for which she, no doubt, has NO TRAINING whatsoever.

In Iraq today, there IS NO "safe protected" area. There never is when the other side practices guerrilla warfare. Ask any Vietnam vet.

The SAFEST place for her to be, is among armed men, many of whom are likely to be her relatives. Women are fine defending fortified positions. They can shoot just fine. They have a hard time carrying lots of gear, so they are not suitable for long range patrolling. They can help the men by keeping watch, and helping to defend the base from attack.

[TigersEye]

It was more of an observation than an attack. You would think the volume of like responses to you would get through. Too thick headed I guess.

[TigersEye]

This is a good place to start. Statist and anti-4th Amendment.

[OldNewYork]

Let’s draft feminists then. Equality now!

[jimpick]

You state “they will do whatever they have to to survive”. Yet you call this women a moron.

I will not give it rest. It is my opinion that all Muslims are untrustworthy. I do not have to spend five years living in a hellhole to know what happens there just as a chemist does not have to look at atoms to tell what will happen in a test tube. I will give my opinion on how barbaric Muslims are to protect my family from a bleak future from what the Muslims want.

I don’t care how much time you spent in a protected area you are naive to what these animals are capable off. This women is protecting her family and her way of life. Yet you have the guts to call her a moron.

Again when was the last time you were in the Kurds area? You claim to know more than everyone here because you spent time in the middle east. Yet you have never been to this area have you?

[Moorings]

I am not for women in combat in stable and civilized countries. However, if they are fighting for their homes, if the choice is between fighting vs. gang rapes/be-headings/sexual slavery/children being be-headed/forced conversion to the pedophile religion, then by all means fight like there is no tomorrow!!

[Ditto]

Would YOU want to risk any of the women in your family to be at the mercy of ANY of those ISIS/ISIL men as a POW?

I would not want any person I cared for, male or female, to be at the mercy of those animals. IIRC from the article, she said she would use that AK on herself before she would allow them to capture her.

She is fighting for her homeland, her people, and not running off somewhere. She apparently does not think her life is more valuable just because she is female.

Unlike you, I respect that and I pray that God grants her plenty of ammo and a steady hand so she can put as many of those bastards as possible back in hell where they came from.

[Travis McGee]

I found this on Gates of Vienna as the opening to an essay, I think it’s very appropriate here.

“As my intention is to write something useful for discerning minds, I find it more fitting to seek the truth of the matter rather than imaginary conceptions. Many have imagined republics and principalities that have never been seen or heard of, because how one lives and how one ought to live are so far apart that he who spurns what is actually done for what ought to be done will achieve ruin rather than his own preservation.”

(Machiavelli, Niccolo (2009-01-01). The Prince (Vintage Classics) (p. 55). Random House. Kindle Edition.)

[Ditto]

True enough. They simply DO NOT have the population to produce enough engineers and such to EVER be on their own.

That's as long as the thoroughly corrupt and self-serving Saudi royal family runs the show. If ISIS/ISIL or a similar group made a concerted push there, the House of Said would collapse as fast as the Romonavs, Hapsburgs, or Hollerzollens did 100 years ago.

Guess what happens to those high paid western engineers then, not to mention the non-muslim 3rd world grunt laborers they rely on.

These guys don't give a damn about oil revenues, infant mortality or anything other than doing "Allah's will" as defined by the Whabbi philosophy which ironically rose to the fore because the corrupt Saudi family used it as a means to gain and maintain power over rival tribes. Now, the Saudis are being outbid in radicalism using their own philosophy.

[Oztrich Boy]

It WOULD work, however, if they WORE body bombs so that their attacker would blow up with them. NO ONE doubts their courage, least of all ME. Bravery has little to do with gender, faith, national origin, size or age. In fact, these women MIGHT be angrier just because they aren't a man's equal in hand-to-hand combat. I would THINK that those women would want their death to count for something. Dying and taking out some of the enemy might be a meaningful death to them.

And that is exactly how the jihadis of the Caliphate see the role of women in combat - suicide bomb carriers

Shouldn't your thinking be a little more Western?