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City Threatens to Arrest Ministers Who Refuse to Perform Same-Sex Weddings (Idaho)
Fox News ^ | Oct. 20, 2014 | Todd Starnes

Posted on 10/18/2014 4:09:39 PM PDT by EternalVigilance

Two Christian ministers who own an Idaho wedding chapel were told they had to either perform same-sex weddings or face jail time and up to $1,000 in daily fines, according to a lawsuit filed Friday in federal court.

Alliance Defending Freedom is representing Donald and Evelyn Knapp, two ordained ministers who own the Hitching Post Wedding Chapel in Coeur d’Alene.

“Right now they are at risk of being prosecuted,” attorney Jeremy Tedesco told me. “The threat of enforcement is more than just credible.”

The wedding chapel is registered as a “religious corporation” limited to performing “one-man-one-woman marriages as defined by the Holy Bible.”

However, the chapel is also a for-profit business and city officials said that means the owners must comply with the local nondiscrimination ordinance.

That ordinance, passed in 2013, prohibits discrimination based on sexual orientation and it applies to housing, employment and public accommodation.

City Attorney Warren Wilson told The Spokesman-Review in May that the Hitching Post Wedding Chapel likely would be required to follow the ordinance.

“I would think that the Hitching Post would probably be considered a place of public accommodation that would be subject to the ordinance,” he said.

He also told television station KXLY that any wedding chapel that turns away a gay couple would in theory be a violation of the law “and you’re looking at a potential misdemeanor citation.”

Wilson confirmed to Knapp in a telephone conversation that even ordained ministers would be required to perform same-sex weddings, the lawsuit alleges.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; US: Idaho
KEYWORDS: gaystopo; homosexualagenda; judiciary; liberalfascism; tyranny
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To: Theodore R.

There’s the problem, right there.


81 posted on 10/18/2014 9:34:25 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Fight abortion & 'gay marriage' like the survival of your country depends upon it. Because it does.)
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To: Theodore R.

Not all of us do, by the way.


82 posted on 10/18/2014 9:34:47 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Fight abortion & 'gay marriage' like the survival of your country depends upon it. Because it does.)
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To: Jacquerie

“Free association” was part of the reason Goldwater and Tower voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964, but they both later recanted.


83 posted on 10/19/2014 4:32:34 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: Ben Mugged

2% is roughly seven million. And maybe 6% of that 2% practice anything close to heterosexual monogamy. That is about 420,000.


84 posted on 10/19/2014 5:22:07 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

exactly Lurking that was heir mistake. They figured it wouldn’t happen in a conservative state like Idaho. But they are already after the churches. They want to take that tax exempt status away so badly. Maybe that is what the churches need to do— all the social service programs etc that Christian groups run from Catholic Charities on down,(they are the biggest one)and dump it all in the states’ hands. That should send a big F##K YOU to all the socialists who want to control everything anyway. The government knows it would be screwed if the Christians got out of the charity business and just started doing charity on a congregation to congregation basis.


85 posted on 10/19/2014 8:36:25 AM PDT by brooklyn dave (IF YOU TAKE THE STATE'S NICKEL, YOU GET THE STATE'S NOOSE)
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To: D Rider; Vigilanteman

Sorry, I realized my math error while rethinking my post later that evening. Must be all the grey hair.


86 posted on 10/19/2014 9:39:07 AM PDT by Ben Mugged (The number one enemy of liberalism is reality.)
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To: Theodore R.
Place an order for Preserve Traditional Marriage bumperstickers with a printing company run by homosexuals.

Place an order for Right-to-Life posters and literature with a printing company run by abortion enthusiasts.

Order NRA banners and posters with a company run by PETA fanatics or gun control nuts.

Lots of ways to fight back by forcing businesses run by science deniers/climate alarmists, socialism supporters, etc., etc. to act contrary to their beliefs.

87 posted on 10/19/2014 9:47:21 AM PDT by glennaro
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To: glennaro

Such businesses may be hard to find. MOST libtards avoid the work and risk of business to consume government checks, work in media, academia or law.


88 posted on 10/19/2014 11:37:04 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: EternalVigilance

When Coeur d’Alene falls you know the end is near....is Sandpoint next?


89 posted on 10/19/2014 11:42:21 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: wardaddy

Yeah, no kidding. That’s exactly how I feel about it.

I used to live there, and my son and his family still do.

The last bastion.


90 posted on 10/19/2014 11:44:51 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Fight abortion & 'gay marriage' like the survival of your country depends upon it. Because it does.)
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To: wardaddy

Hayden Lake will fall first.


91 posted on 10/19/2014 11:50:26 AM PDT by Pelham ("This is how they do it in Mexico"- California State Motto)
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To: EternalVigilance

I am friends with these minister’s two sons, both were members of the singles group I used to belong to. All are married and have multiple kids. I have met these people and they are fine Christians and nice as the day is long.

It is beyond sick that the Knapps are being targeted in this manner. I have my own solution...but I am not allowed to say it on FR.


92 posted on 10/19/2014 11:52:23 AM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: hoagy62

I hear ya.

I’ve met Don a few times myself. He’s the close friend of a close friend.


93 posted on 10/19/2014 11:56:22 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Fight abortion & 'gay marriage' like the survival of your country depends upon it. Because it does.)
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To: glennaro

Yea, but most don’t have the time or money to take such steps.


94 posted on 10/19/2014 3:01:44 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian; yorkiemom; null and void; laplata; Gluteus Maximus; Salvavida; ...
(CWII Spark)

>> However, the chapel is also a for-profit business and city officials said that means the owners must comply with the local nondiscrimination ordinance.
>
> That's their mistake. Reincorporate as a church and avoid the problem.

Not necessary under the Idaho Constitution:

ARTICLE I, SECTION 4. GUARANTY OF RELIGIOUS LIBERTY.
The exercise and enjoyment of religious faith and worship shall forever be guaranteed; and no person shall be denied any civil or political right, privilege, or capacity on account of his religious opinions; but the liberty of conscience hereby secured shall not be construed to dispense with oaths or affirmations, or excuse acts of licentiousness or justify polygamous or other pernicious practices, inconsistent with morality or the peace or safety of the state; nor to permit any person, organization, or association to directly or indirectly aid or abet, counsel or advise any person to commit the crime of bigamy or polygamy, or any other crime. No person shall be required to attend or support any ministry or place of worship, religious sect or denomination, or pay tithes against his consent; nor shall any preference be given by law to any religious denomination or mode of worship. Bigamy and polygamy are forever prohibited in the state, and the legislature shall provide by law for the punishment of such crimes.
What we have here, plain and simple, is a government that refuses to be bound; this leads to one place —
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.” ― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

95 posted on 10/19/2014 4:43:41 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: babygene

The good thing is, that this isn’t going to go anywhere. -————

I agree.


96 posted on 10/19/2014 4:49:46 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: brooklyn dave
The government knows it would be screwed if the Christians got out of the charity business and just started doing charity on a congregation to congregation basis.

Itn't that all the more reason to do it?

97 posted on 10/19/2014 4:51:37 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Yeah boo, you’re back!


98 posted on 10/19/2014 4:52:09 PM PDT by yorkiemom ( "...if fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: EternalVigilance
Two Christian ministers who own an Idaho wedding chapel were told they had to either perform same-sex weddings or face jail time and up to $1,000 in daily fines, according to a lawsuit filed Friday in federal court.

As predicted many times, this has always been their end goal: to infiltrate and corrupt the concept of "faith" and ultimately the Church itself.

It's been amazing to see the destruction 1.5% of the American population has done in just the past year alone. The swiftness has been breathtaking..

99 posted on 10/19/2014 4:54:17 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: OneWingedShark

Were in the Constitution does it say that you have to be non-profit to exercise a right?


100 posted on 10/19/2014 4:56:36 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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