Posted on 10/18/2014 8:28:58 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne
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Ted Cruz Tells Brody File: "Real Risk" Of Pastors Being Jailed For Preaching Against Homosexuality
In an exclusive interview with The Brody File, Senator Ted Cruz says pastors being hauled off to jail by the government for preaching against homosexuality is a real risk in the future.
I think that is a real risk, Cruz tells me. Some in the media ridicule that threat saying there is no danger of the government coming after pastors. That is the usual response.
But he adds: The specter of government trying to determine if what pastors preach from the pulpit meets with the policy views or political correctness of the governing authorities, that prospect is real and happening now.
Watch the clip below along with a partial transcription.
The Brody File traveled to Houston Texas Thursday to interview Cruz after his press conference in defense of Houston pastors. They are under a severe religious liberty attack by city officials.
The Mayor and the City Council are trying to subpoena the sermons of these pastors because of their supposed outspokenness on homosexuality and a controversial LGBT ordinance.
The pastors are refusing to give in.
More Brody File analysis on Ted Cruz and evangelicals here.
MANDATORY COURTESY: CBN NEWS/THE BRODY FILE
David Brody: One of the next battles in this culture war could indeed be right there in the pulpit. Are we going through a potential period or could we very well soon go through a period where pastors are hauled off to jail for a hate crime because they are speaking for traditional marriage?
Senator Ted Cruz: I think that is a real risk and you and I have both pointed to that risk in the past and some in the media ridicule that threat saying there is no danger of the government coming after pastors. That is the usual response.
Senator Ted Cruz: The specter of government trying to determine if what pastors preach from the pulpit meets with the policy views or political correctness of the governing authorities, that prospect is real and happening now.
Senator Ted Cruz: When you subpoena one pastor, you subpoena every pastor. If government has the power to force the pulpit to knuckle under, if government has the power to insist that pastors hand over their sermons for government approval then weve lost the very first freedom that begins our bill of rights. Weve lost the freedom that this country was built on. Thats what this fight is and I very much hope that this serves as a wake-up call to Christians, to people of faith, I hope it serves as a wake-up call to pastors to speak out and make abundantly clear that we will not give up our religious liberty. We will not go quietly into the night but we will stand and fight for principles that are right and true and will speak the truth and the pastors of this country will not be muzzled.
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The pictures below say it all.
Ted Cruz has something special and Thursday in his hometown of Houston Texas it was clearly on display.
The Brody File saw it up close. He came to his home church here (Houstons First Baptist Church) to hold court about the Houston pastors who have come under a vicious religious liberty attack by city officials, led by the mayor.
As Cruz was speaking, he was in his element because what he has is not a political skill. Nor is it an intellectual one. When it comes to his relationship with evangelicals, he has a spiritual connection. He is one of them. He gets them and they get him. And one things for certain: Hes not ashamed of the Gospel. Far from it. Cruz wears his faith on his sleeve and is proud of it. This press conference was heartfelt. This was no political stunt. Look folks, his father has been a traveling preacher for years.
Cruz is well versed in the Bible. Its at the core of who he is. In my many interviews with him over the years, he loves to talk about Jesus but hey, I didnt fall off the turnip truck yesterday. I know when politicians bring up faith for political reasons. Cruz doesnt do that.
This Houston Pastors story will fan the flames of the religious liberty issue in America. Ted Cruz is well positioned to lead on this issue because he lives it and breathes it.
Its at the core of his being. Other possible presidential candidates believe just as much in the religious liberty issue and in 2016, theyll discuss it with fervor. But Cruz comes from a different place. Not only has he defended religious liberty cases in court, he defends it in public with the word of God.
He has the street cred to make this a signature issue in his bid to strongly woo the evangelical vote. Watching him in action Thursday, in front of a passionate overflow room gave me pause.
It made me realize that this is the issue that could set him apart from others with the evangelical audience. If Mike Huckabee runs, hell be right in the mix too but at this point, Cruz seems to be leading the way on this. It looks to be his evangelical calling card and a heartfelt one at that.
And here are some Brody File pictures showing Cruz in rare form.
He has my unwavering support in 2016.
“In an exclusive interview with The Brody File, Senator Ted Cruz says pastors being hauled off to jail by the government for preaching against homosexuality is a real risk in the future”
We all know that’s not a real risk; the Bill of Rights is an unambiguous legal guarantee of our God-given rights. Pastors facing the courts over the content of their sermons would be no more likely than:
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/12/12/Christian-Baker-Willing-to-Go-to-Jail-for-Declining-Gay-Wedding-Cake Jack Phillips is a baker who declined to bake a wedding cake for a same-sex couple because his Christian belief is that marriage exists only between a man and woman. Now a Colorado judge has ordered him to bake cakes for same-sex marriages, and if Phillips refuses, he could go to jail.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/22/elane-photography-v-vanessa-willock_n_3798948.html New Mexico’s state Supreme Court came to a unanimous decision, ruling that Elane Photography’s decision to refuse photographing a 2006 commitment ceremony violated the state’s Human Rights Act.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/3/christian-farmers-fined-13k-refusing-gay-wedding-g/ Christian farmers fined $13K for refusing gay wedding
What could go wrong?
He has my vote
Yes, all churches and organizations of (true) faith should voluntary give up their tax-exempt status. That is the way it always should have been I recon.
But the question is: Even if they do this, how long before the pink mafia comes up with another bogus reason to shut them down?
Point being the war is coming to the Christian community regardless; best to recognize it and prepare now.
No, a Tax Exempt status for a Church is a natural right under the Constitution. As the Constitution guarantees the free exercise of Religion, and the power to tax is the power to destroy, Religious institutions are naturally exempt from taxes as a condition of their guarantees under the Constitution.
A contract or agreement with regard to incorporation of a religious institution that interferes with a religious institution's right to free exercise of religion is void as being an unconstitutional infringement on the First Amendment.
I for one will not surrender to the argument that simply because a Church is granted tax exempt status that it gives up the right to express doctrines that are either against the political winds or the politically correct winds.
Churches have an inherent right to advocate not only for political positions consistent with their doctrinal beliefs, but also to advocate for candidates who share those beliefs and to advocate against candidates who don't.
Labor Unions do not lose their status for such advocacy, but Churches seem to have surrendered on this issue. They need to fight to restore it.
I understand this position and its relation to Romans 13 but there is a severe flaw to the reasoning.
Unalienable rights, such as freedom of religion, conscience and speech, are not government’s to give or rescind. It is tantamount to government saying “I will not punish or tax you if you agree to be silent about government. I will reward you for your silence by not taxing you.”
Government is not constitutionally authorized to barter for rights, so either it taxes all equally or it taxes none.
See post 8.
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>>MONEY, “Beyond the Dreams of Avarice” (Hans Solo, Star Wars).<<
I am pretty sure it was Dr. Leonard McCoy in Star Trek IV, not Han Solo. He used the term when Scotty introduced transparent aluminum to a 20th Century Earth manufacturer.
Well, I guess that is what it all comes down to. It all comes down to whether churches can continue to have their tax exempt status.
This could cause lots of soul searching among clergy and all people of faith. Is having tax exempt status more important than preaching the tenets of your faith????
We are at a collision point with religious faith and secular law. Now that homosexual marriage is spreading, and all manner of “LGBT” rights laws are being passed, faiths which consider homosexuality sinful are at odds with the secular laws.
Houston’s mayor and ruling cabal have shown complete distain for the First Amendment as all of their actions taken together violate every aspect of the Amendmennt either explicitly or implicitly.
Your argument assumes that your money belongs to the government, and they let you keep some of it. And we don’t have the right to push back when our government is in the wrong, such as when our government violates that “other” agreement, the constitution.
In any case, this is a fight that is coming. It has already happened to pastors in Canada, and Germany, and Sweden. It will happen here. Pastors and Christians had better be expecting it. Most pastors will find ways to finesse it as long as they can because normal people don’t want to be sued or face jail time. And when your pastor faces it many Christians will try to blame them for their troubles instead of backing them. Its human nature.
Why are you spamming this?
True, but its notable that it hasn't been an issue until now. The problem isn't really the tax exempt status, it is the fact that we have elected totalitarians into high office. If they can use the tax code to come after you, they will. If not, they'll find another weapon.
Either way, they are coming for you if they perceive you as an enemy. They'll use whatever weapon is available or they'll invent one.
” ......... pastors being hauled off to jail by the government for preaching against homosexuality is a real risk.
If they start doing it in Alabama, my pastor wouldn’t last a week before going to jail. He just speaks the truth.
The left needs to continue to push this. They will find out it’s a war they’re going to LOSE. I say bring it.
Republicans need to start calling it liberals “WAR ON RELIGION.” They need to repeat it over and over. But in this case, it is true.
Roger that.
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