The case for voting Republicans, even those you think are Rinos

Many conservative voters are disillusioned at the Republicans for not standing up for their principles, for compromising with the Democrats, for having no spines etc. etc. They vow not to vote for the Republicans, or outright vote for the Democrats, to send them a message, to teach them a lesson. I think this kind of message/lesson serves no purpose but to cut off your own supply of oxygen.

Almost all the Republicans rejected obumbocrap (obamacare) but Harry Reid and his crooked Dems jammed it through deviously. The House Republicans have passed many legislations to repeal obumbocrap but Reid et al killed them all. The House Republicans have passed many good legislations but Reid and his crooks buried them all. The media blasted the Republicans on all their good constitutional/conservative acts, but remained silent on the Democrats' constant acts to destroy the constitution. This is a known fact and all of us always complain about it. Yet we are not showing any understanding of the difficult situations facing the House Republicans. While the Dem voters are behind their Dems 100%, we are demanding perfection while offering no help. We blame the Republicans for this and that but we are not working hard to create an opportunity or situation where they can stand on their principles and serve us faithfully. Why don't we vote them into majority in both House and Senate, so they have more control and feel less pressured to compromise, but more encouraged to listen to us to enact constitutional legislations for the good of the country. This is not excuses for the Republicans' non-performance. It is simply a fact that a good person can only do so much under difficult situations! We should understand that it is human nature to be rather weak, especially when under pressure. But given the favorable situations we are more likely to stand up taller for our principles. Remember when the Republicans were the majority in both Houses - even with a Democrat president Clinton, Congress was able to serve the people well! So if we are able to vote the Republicans into the majority, we just might be able to influence them into reversing the course to get our country back on the right track. Considering that many people have awaken and patriots are much more enthusiatically engaged in shaping government policies, we can realistically hope to get better leaders who will listen to the people again. All we need to do is unite and vote the crooks out but vote the acceptable albeit imperfect Republican candidates in, then work hard to influence them...

Certainly, with rampant voter fraud, ignorant and low-information voters, AND, the conservatives who vow to stay home or vote for the Dems, there is no hope that the Republicans will be in control of both Houses. It was said that those conservatives who wouldn't vote for the Republicans are part of the reasons why the Dems won the elections. So these conservatives are in effect cutting off the supply of oxygen to their own hopes (and our hopes)!

History suggests that the Republicans are more constitution-abiding leaders. We need to create the opportunities for them to abide to the constituion - by voting them into majority and then pressuring them into serving the people the way they should.

Oh thanks for reminding me.

We are now at around 650 posts with POSSIBLY one person who MAY have addresses the FACT that the GOP promised Amnesty if given a majority/power. Possibly because after being asked, he has yet to reply as to which post that SUPPOSEDLY occured at. So maybe...who knows?

Now since Drifty was so kind as to bring it up, since this thread is about an article by frauds and voting for frauds no matter what, I think that the frauds ignoring their base and ramming more disease and the promise of more dead American kids down America’s throat practically begs for said base to take it’s votes where they belong. Conservative candidates.

And since the GOP’s open borders already killed a couple American kids thanks to the new polio that came with their blessed illegals, we ought to give their intentions our most strident attention.

“IF the GOP got the majority, they could be persuaded to drop amnesty. Like bush 43 was persuaded to drop harriet miers.”
Decades ago, when I worked at Nasa. There were people who voted for Clinton, even though they were told that he would cut their jobs. Clinton was elected, their jobs were cut... they were surprised.

Harriet Miers was a disaster in many ways, not just from the conservatives. Those same forces will not oppose immigration reform.

“If the GOP doesn’t get the majority, it doesn’t matter because amnesty is going to be shoved down our throats anyway.”
Nope. If we keep the house, we keep grid-lock. The two parties don’t want to work together. Given a choice between gridlock and a liberal reform of immigration policy.

I choose gridlock. Maybe a nice 50/50 gridlock where the RINOs get to see how dems share power and we are still in a good position for 2016... but I still prefer gridlock to RINO policy.

Dan in Wichita:

There are CONSERVATIVES to whom mere Republicans reference as "purists." There are "Republicans," such unprincipled creatures as McCain, Myth Romney, Robert (Tax Collector for the Welfare State) Dole, Bush the Globalist Elder, Weeper of the House John Suntan and Scotch Bonehead, Mitch the Turtle McConnell.

If any of the "Republicans" or their ilk have any position of principle, it is either absolutely demanded by their constituency or sheer accident. They exist to slavishly service the US Chamber of Crony Socialism types and the Wall Street/K Street crowd. $$$$ uber alles. They buy nominations, rig party rules, expect to piss all over the base and then have the gilt-edged nerve to demand conservative support for their spaghetti-spined (at best) political whore nominees.

When CONSERVATIVES go to the sidelines and refuse to play the brainless servant of the RINO game just this ONE MORE TIME to keep the Demonrats out of office in this hour of OUR PERPETUAL GREATEST HOUR OF NEED (which arises anew every two years), if "we" win, that just maximizes the profits of the soulless RINOs by giving THEM a place at the bargaining table to line their pockets at OUR expense, they chuckle up their sleeves at conservatives for being such stupid rubes as to fall for their RINO nonsense one more time. Then the RINOs hop in bed eagerly with Obozo, Pelosi, Harry Reid, et al. and carve up the profits for ANOTHER two years.

If CONSERVATIVES walk away from the stupidity of voting for the bought and paid for GOP-E whores, at least we take their personal profit increases away for two years. If we take away our votes long enough, perhaps, they will get the message and find new hobbies. Polo? Tiddleywinks? They won't be able to aspire to be called Mr. President, or Mr. Senator or Mr. Secretary or, for their cubs, Mr. Congressman.

Yes, it IS true that the practitioners of Hackerama will be left "on the battlefield to be politically slaughtered by the" left. Tooooooooo baddd!!! When you have been slaughtered by the Demonrat left, you will at last recognize that you have been slaughtered by the left. You HAVE already been slaughtered by the left if you have voted for the left in the form of Whacko John McCain or Myth Dudley Do Wrong Romney. If you cannot recognize as meaningless the distinction between Demonrat left and GOP-E left, then conservatives need to bring that home to you by destroying your useless candidates.

It is true that when conservatives are the last men standing, we who ARE conservatives are at jeopardy of losing important rights: RTKBA, RtL, Freedom of Religion, you name it. What else is new? That has been the status quo for an extended period of time, thanks to the degeneration of the Democrat Party into the Demonrat Party and the eager co-operation of the GOP-E as junior partners to the usual Demonrat majority. Myth Romney was going to be a pro-lifer? Would stop being a gun grabber? Would stop violating religious rights? Would stop being an enthusiastic cheerleader for "gay" everything? Would be committed to ANYTHING conservative whatsoever other than protecting Muffie's trust fund? No more so than Obozo on all counts. For technocrats, Myth might, by default rather than intention, be marginally more competent (at ramming through the bipartisan leftist agenda and preening for the cameras and therefore be marginally more dangerous than Obozo).

When CONSERVATIVES refuse to submit to Wall Street, K Street, USCoC and the insufferable whores who run the GOP through the GOP-E, we are not pouting. We are on strike and an ever increasing number are on strike with each passing year until the GOP EARNS our votes by nominating candidates WORTH VOTING FOR in their own right not just because they are not Obozo or not Hillary.

Even Goldwater the pro-abort noticed these problems with the GOP-E leftists as long ago as the 1950s when he called the Eisenhower regime a "Dime Store New Deal."

After the Republiwimps have been slaughtered, the CONSERVATIVES will, if we notice, have no one else to defend our rights. That is already the status quo. How will conservatives notice the absence of allies? Who in his or her right mind, expects protection of conservative principles by trash like Myth Romney?

Second, your absurd description of the RINO position as a "full scale invasion" is just not true.

Really? What have they done to stop it?
Anything at the federal level?
How about the State level?

`Arizona`	`New Mexico`	`Texas`
Art 5, Sec 4. Governor; powers and duties; special sessions of legislature; message and recommendations The governor shall transact all executive business with the officers of the government, civil and military, and may require information in writing from the officers in the executive department upon any subject relating to the duties of their respective offices. He shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed. He may convene the legislature in extraordinary session. He shall communicate, by message, to the legislature at every session the condition of the state, and recommend such matters as he shall deem expedient.	`Art 5, Sec. 4. [Governor's executive power; commander of militia.] The supreme executive power of the state shall be vested in the governor, who shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed. He shall be commander in chief of the military forces of the state, except when they are called into the service of the United States. He shall have power to call out the militia to preserve the public peace, execute the laws, suppress insurrection and repel invasion.`	`Art 4, Sec. 7. COMMANDER IN CHIEF OF MILITARY FORCES; CALLING FORTH MILITIA. He shall be Commander-in-Chief of the military forces of the State, except when they are called into actual service of the United States. He shall have power to call forth the militia to execute the laws of the State, to suppress insurrections, and to repel invasions.`

And if you don't think that what we're dealing with is an invasion, I should point out that the official estimates of the illegal alien population are 11.5 million (3.46%) — like the unemployment numbers these are highly suspect, and likely closer to 40 million (12.58%) — it must be asked at what point it is an invasion.

Yes, one of them being that I will vote against whoever violates my principles the MOST - even if that is an unsatisfactory choice.

But there's no such thing as a vote against in our system.
To say that there is by appealing to binary logic presupposes things that simply aren't true — namely that there are only two parties/candidates to vote for.

In 2012 Romney was put up as the Republican candidate, and Obama as the Democratic candidate… neither of these were acceptable to me so I voted for Gary Johnson, the Libertarian candidate and former governor of my State — this was not a vote for Romney, it was not a vote for Obama; had Gary Johnson not appeared I would have written in EternalVigilance.

By constraining yourself to whatever dreck the Republican party throws up (because they're not as bad as the Democrat) you implicitly vote for every move toward socialism, communism, and stateism that they make.

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