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To: Dan in Wichita; Norm Lenhart; Finny; RitaOK; Diogenes; Dr. Sivana; WesternPacific; chrisnj; ...
Dan in Wichita:

There are CONSERVATIVES to whom mere Republicans reference as "purists." There are "Republicans," such unprincipled creatures as McCain, Myth Romney, Robert (Tax Collector for the Welfare State) Dole, Bush the Globalist Elder, Weeper of the House John Suntan and Scotch Bonehead, Mitch the Turtle McConnell.

If any of the "Republicans" or their ilk have any position of principle, it is either absolutely demanded by their constituency or sheer accident. They exist to slavishly service the US Chamber of Crony Socialism types and the Wall Street/K Street crowd. $$$$ uber alles. They buy nominations, rig party rules, expect to piss all over the base and then have the gilt-edged nerve to demand conservative support for their spaghetti-spined (at best) political whore nominees.

When CONSERVATIVES go to the sidelines and refuse to play the brainless servant of the RINO game just this ONE MORE TIME to keep the Demonrats out of office in this hour of OUR PERPETUAL GREATEST HOUR OF NEED (which arises anew every two years), if "we" win, that just maximizes the profits of the soulless RINOs by giving THEM a place at the bargaining table to line their pockets at OUR expense, they chuckle up their sleeves at conservatives for being such stupid rubes as to fall for their RINO nonsense one more time. Then the RINOs hop in bed eagerly with Obozo, Pelosi, Harry Reid, et al. and carve up the profits for ANOTHER two years.

If CONSERVATIVES walk away from the stupidity of voting for the bought and paid for GOP-E whores, at least we take their personal profit increases away for two years. If we take away our votes long enough, perhaps, they will get the message and find new hobbies. Polo? Tiddleywinks? They won't be able to aspire to be called Mr. President, or Mr. Senator or Mr. Secretary or, for their cubs, Mr. Congressman.

Yes, it IS true that the practitioners of Hackerama will be left "on the battlefield to be politically slaughtered by the" left. Tooooooooo baddd!!! When you have been slaughtered by the Demonrat left, you will at last recognize that you have been slaughtered by the left. You HAVE already been slaughtered by the left if you have voted for the left in the form of Whacko John McCain or Myth Dudley Do Wrong Romney. If you cannot recognize as meaningless the distinction between Demonrat left and GOP-E left, then conservatives need to bring that home to you by destroying your useless candidates.

It is true that when conservatives are the last men standing, we who ARE conservatives are at jeopardy of losing important rights: RTKBA, RtL, Freedom of Religion, you name it. What else is new? That has been the status quo for an extended period of time, thanks to the degeneration of the Democrat Party into the Demonrat Party and the eager co-operation of the GOP-E as junior partners to the usual Demonrat majority. Myth Romney was going to be a pro-lifer? Would stop being a gun grabber? Would stop violating religious rights? Would stop being an enthusiastic cheerleader for "gay" everything? Would be committed to ANYTHING conservative whatsoever other than protecting Muffie's trust fund? No more so than Obozo on all counts. For technocrats, Myth might, by default rather than intention, be marginally more competent (at ramming through the bipartisan leftist agenda and preening for the cameras and therefore be marginally more dangerous than Obozo).

When CONSERVATIVES refuse to submit to Wall Street, K Street, USCoC and the insufferable whores who run the GOP through the GOP-E, we are not pouting. We are on strike and an ever increasing number are on strike with each passing year until the GOP EARNS our votes by nominating candidates WORTH VOTING FOR in their own right not just because they are not Obozo or not Hillary.

Even Goldwater the pro-abort noticed these problems with the GOP-E leftists as long ago as the 1950s when he called the Eisenhower regime a "Dime Store New Deal."

After the Republiwimps have been slaughtered, the CONSERVATIVES will, if we notice, have no one else to defend our rights. That is already the status quo. How will conservatives notice the absence of allies? Who in his or her right mind, expects protection of conservative principles by trash like Myth Romney?

653 posted on 10/18/2014 3:24:54 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club: Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: BlackElk
I agree.
We're DAMNED if we DON"T, and even MORE DAMNED if we DO !
I look forward to the Conservative BASE servicing the "ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS" with "The Pointy End" !
661 posted on 10/18/2014 3:52:27 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: BlackElk; All

OK, you withhold vote from anybody who is not strictly conservative to your standard. Let us say you folks eventually remove them. While you are in the lengthy process of removing them, you are handing total control to the democRATS. Then what?
We are not assuming that the conservatives have no chance of success, but in the current political environment (media partnering with the democRATS, the Dems’ vote-buying powers, rampant voter fraud, plus a big portion of the voting public indoctrinated with their flawed and seemingly ‘utopian’ ideology.....), how much resources can you get to achieve your goals? Even if we all agree with your ways and withhold votes for the Rinos, the true conservative candidates still have a lengthy, uphill battle to gain control, simply because the media is working against them, and, we don’t have the resources to propel them into power. The likely result is total control and power go to the RATS - is that what we want?
We need to be strategic, using all the resources we can get - that means getting the Rep who are more on our side (especially when they are the majority working in unison with us - they will if we support them while simultaneously exerting pressure on them to stay conservative) But we need to get them in before we can pressure them and utilize their power! The last thing we want to do is to isolate ourselves and add to the enemies’ powers.

In reality, I don’t want to vote for any one who aids and abetts obumbo into power - that would be just about everyone, including Allen West, Louis Gomert, Michelle Backman, Jim DeMint, Ben Carson....(all those who remain silent on o’s ineligibility proving they are not abiding by the constitution) The only people I will vote for are Allen Keys, Orly Taitz, Cody R. Judy, Dr. Manning of NY and the others who have been working relentlessly to expose obumbo and remove him from the illegal position he is holding. If we ALL unite to expose obumbo, we might have removed him already. But many of our conservative people are NOT truly conservative because they are willing to destroy US Constitution Article 2 (the nbc requirement)!

So you folks are voting for ‘true conservatives’, with a twist - conservatives who don’t uphold US Constitution Article 2 are perfectly all right!

I see that we cannot remove the illegal ‘president’ by any legal, congressional means (we have tried!). We cannot reverse the course without electing leaders who are more on our side (remember - no one is totally on our sides!) or whom we can more easily influence to be on our side.

We are trying to secure potential resources by roping them onto our side, thus adding to our weapons that we can sharpen for better use (think the Gingrich years when Republicans and Rinos alike serving the people much better than any RATS-dominated years... yes yes, there were some less desirable measures passed. Can we ever expect perfection from the government or even from ourselves?)
whereas
you folks are trying to remove what you perceive to be your true enemies (just because they don’t agree with you 100%) even at the expense of handing control/power to the other side. Are your conservative candidates people who abide by the constitution 100%, including article 2? If not, why not?

There is no hope of voting in my ideal candidate who abides by the Constitution 100% (including article 2). I have no choice but to vote for those who have the potential to help our cause - if we don’t have the ideal conservative, we go for the second choice....
We will not drive our troops to the enemies and withhold support for them just so we can remove the less desirable troops. We will rehabilitate them by creating a suitable environment for them to stay the course.


742 posted on 10/19/2014 8:26:39 AM PDT by chrisnj
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