Posted on 10/18/2014 4:45:34 AM PDT by chrisnj
Many conservative voters are disillusioned at the Republicans for not standing up for their principles, for compromising with the Democrats, for having no spines etc. etc. They vow not to vote for the Republicans, or outright vote for the Democrats, to send them a message, to teach them a lesson. I think this kind of message/lesson serves no purpose but to cut off your own supply of oxygen.
Almost all the Republicans rejected obumbocrap (obamacare) but Harry Reid and his crooked Dems jammed it through deviously. The House Republicans have passed many legislations to repeal obumbocrap but Reid et al killed them all. The House Republicans have passed many good legislations but Reid and his crooks buried them all. The media blasted the Republicans on all their good constitutional/conservative acts, but remained silent on the Democrats' constant acts to destroy the constitution. This is a known fact and all of us always complain about it. Yet we are not showing any understanding of the difficult situations facing the House Republicans. While the Dem voters are behind their Dems 100%, we are demanding perfection while offering no help. We blame the Republicans for this and that but we are not working hard to create an opportunity or situation where they can stand on their principles and serve us faithfully. Why don't we vote them into majority in both House and Senate, so they have more control and feel less pressured to compromise, but more encouraged to listen to us to enact constitutional legislations for the good of the country. This is not excuses for the Republicans' non-performance. It is simply a fact that a good person can only do so much under difficult situations! We should understand that it is human nature to be rather weak, especially when under pressure. But given the favorable situations we are more likely to stand up taller for our principles. Remember when the Republicans were the majority in both Houses - even with a Democrat president Clinton, Congress was able to serve the people well! So if we are able to vote the Republicans into the majority, we just might be able to influence them into reversing the course to get our country back on the right track. Considering that many people have awaken and patriots are much more enthusiatically engaged in shaping government policies, we can realistically hope to get better leaders who will listen to the people again. All we need to do is unite and vote the crooks out but vote the acceptable albeit imperfect Republican candidates in, then work hard to influence them...
Certainly, with rampant voter fraud, ignorant and low-information voters, AND, the conservatives who vow to stay home or vote for the Dems, there is no hope that the Republicans will be in control of both Houses. It was said that those conservatives who wouldn't vote for the Republicans are part of the reasons why the Dems won the elections. So these conservatives are in effect cutting off the supply of oxygen to their own hopes (and our hopes)!
History suggests that the Republicans are more constitution-abiding leaders. We need to create the opportunities for them to abide to the constituion - by voting them into majority and then pressuring them into serving the people the way they should.
Awesome post. Thank you for making it.
Plus, "surviving as a country" isn't all that important, compared with preservation of good government. Move to a state that respects the individual and is half-honest.
If people actually would do that, we would rapidly have this mess on the path to recovery. No state is pefect. Even AZ has Brewer/Texas has Rick...but some states are better than others and we should all go to and strengthen them.
No strategy is worth a hill of beans unless it involves terraforming the mindset of the electorate to agree with conservative ideas. Changing the mind of the electorate is a long term project. The purist crowd doesn’t have the patience for it and should be ignored. They are a self righteous flash in the pan. Long term victory will require exceptional character and perseverance on the part of the conservative movement in America. The question is whether we are up to it. It will take true grit on our part.
the meme doesn’t work. you have yet to address why 80% is too pure. Because even us arch purists are great with Reagan’s 80% number. Until you do, you really shouldn’t be tossing about words you clearly do not understand.
the problem is your RINOs can’t approach it. So instead, you don’t want them to compromise with us, you want us to compromise DOWN even more.
Is that not true? Prove it.
That’s one of the best posts I’ve ever seen on Free Republic.
I think it's too early to tell. Well, I do agree that the numbers of conservatives who are dissatisfied enough to no-vote the GOP candidate is increasing (I've been no-voting for decades, can't stand the "big party" candidates for federal office that come from this state, and the feeling is mutual); but I'm not confident that a system with low voter turnout has any conservative benefit.
Now, Gandhi, there's a fellow who got the attention of the PTB, and he did so while denouncing and eschewing violence.
Yup. it was fantastic.
Don’t misunderstand me. I WANT people to vote, absolutely 100%. Just for conservatives and not for RINOs.
Low turnout will accomplish nothing but a speedier demise. We need people to vote even if they know they cannot win this round. Because it makes them/our position stronger next round.
Decades of experience have taught me that compromisers almost never change people's minds. The only weapon in their arsenal is a bludgeon. For unprincipled political hacks, "changing hearts and minds" is a ruse, an excuse for more compromise, always to be talked about, but never actually done.
The purist crowd doesn’t have the patience for it and should be ignored.
If you really believe that, why are you on this thread?
Yep, because it's worked so well for us before.../s
You just want to complain. You are a meaningless flash in the pan.
When I was Senior Ed at www.Off-road.com, we fought the landuse wars with the econazis. I watched compromise from all angles. and we warned constantly it would result in losing it all. That was late 90s/20001. today, every single area we fought for is either closed entirely or all but off limits. Because our own people ‘compromised’ it all away. one piece at a time.
Compromise always means you give up what you have. Always. And you cannot give up part of a principle or integrity. It’s all or nothing and once gone, they are gone forever.
And you won’t address any issue put to you.
Yup.
Gotcha
You’ve been avoiding my points for several hundred posts now. So I guess I’m not real concerned about whatever BS you might be presenting.
Why should they? There is no point in this except to cast aspersions on others simply because you’re upset. The GOPe are to blame, not conservatives.
Non-sequitor, ad hominem...it’s what liberals do, not conservatives.
...what does it benefit us except to create division?
If you are ok with liberal republicans, that’s your choice...but don’t expect others to fall in line with you simply because you attempt to use some kind of childish and petulant guilt trip.
Such an outcome would be the inevitable short-term result of conservatives simply voting their professed principles.
Long term, such a consistent principled stance by conservatives would overwhelmingly prevail.
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