Posted on 10/18/2014 4:45:34 AM PDT by chrisnj
Awesome post. Thank you for making it.
Plus, "surviving as a country" isn't all that important, compared with preservation of good government. Move to a state that respects the individual and is half-honest.
If people actually would do that, we would rapidly have this mess on the path to recovery. No state is pefect. Even AZ has Brewer/Texas has Rick...but some states are better than others and we should all go to and strengthen them.
No strategy is worth a hill of beans unless it involves terraforming the mindset of the electorate to agree with conservative ideas. Changing the mind of the electorate is a long term project. The purist crowd doesn’t have the patience for it and should be ignored. They are a self righteous flash in the pan. Long term victory will require exceptional character and perseverance on the part of the conservative movement in America. The question is whether we are up to it. It will take true grit on our part.
the meme doesn’t work. you have yet to address why 80% is too pure. Because even us arch purists are great with Reagan’s 80% number. Until you do, you really shouldn’t be tossing about words you clearly do not understand.
the problem is your RINOs can’t approach it. So instead, you don’t want them to compromise with us, you want us to compromise DOWN even more.
Is that not true? Prove it.
That’s one of the best posts I’ve ever seen on Free Republic.
I think it's too early to tell. Well, I do agree that the numbers of conservatives who are dissatisfied enough to no-vote the GOP candidate is increasing (I've been no-voting for decades, can't stand the "big party" candidates for federal office that come from this state, and the feeling is mutual); but I'm not confident that a system with low voter turnout has any conservative benefit.
Now, Gandhi, there's a fellow who got the attention of the PTB, and he did so while denouncing and eschewing violence.
Yup. it was fantastic.
Don’t misunderstand me. I WANT people to vote, absolutely 100%. Just for conservatives and not for RINOs.
Low turnout will accomplish nothing but a speedier demise. We need people to vote even if they know they cannot win this round. Because it makes them/our position stronger next round.
Decades of experience have taught me that compromisers almost never change people's minds. The only weapon in their arsenal is a bludgeon. For unprincipled political hacks, "changing hearts and minds" is a ruse, an excuse for more compromise, always to be talked about, but never actually done.
The purist crowd doesnt have the patience for it and should be ignored.
If you really believe that, why are you on this thread?
Yep, because it's worked so well for us before.../s
You just want to complain. You are a meaningless flash in the pan.
When I was Senior Ed at www.Off-road.com, we fought the landuse wars with the econazis. I watched compromise from all angles. and we warned constantly it would result in losing it all. That was late 90s/20001. today, every single area we fought for is either closed entirely or all but off limits. Because our own people ‘compromised’ it all away. one piece at a time.
Compromise always means you give up what you have. Always. And you cannot give up part of a principle or integrity. It’s all or nothing and once gone, they are gone forever.
And you won’t address any issue put to you.
Yup.
Gotcha
You’ve been avoiding my points for several hundred posts now. So I guess I’m not real concerned about whatever BS you might be presenting.
Why should they? There is no point in this except to cast aspersions on others simply because you’re upset. The GOPe are to blame, not conservatives.
Non-sequitor, ad hominem...it’s what liberals do, not conservatives.
...what does it benefit us except to create division?
If you are ok with liberal republicans, that’s your choice...but don’t expect others to fall in line with you simply because you attempt to use some kind of childish and petulant guilt trip.
Such an outcome would be the inevitable short-term result of conservatives simply voting their professed principles.
Long term, such a consistent principled stance by conservatives would overwhelmingly prevail.
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