The problem is all of the concersn you list, while legitimate, lead to paralysis by analysis. There is always the chance that the dems could capitalize on anything we do. Always. The alternative is to leave a hard liberal with delusions of Godhood in power.
I am not concerned about Republican chances in 16 or any other year. They proved what they are and they need to be replaces with people more concerned about their country than their party to begin with. If there existed such a creature as a conservative Democrat that actually shared my beliefs I’d vote for him hands down. But there is no such creater.
And outside Cruz and two or three others, there is no such thing as a conservative Republican either. On a thread earlier there was a freeper flabberghasted by the thought that Rand Paul was a liberal, though his past few months define it.
We have to stop thinking solely in terms of ‘winning’ when that win only worsens the problems. We have to start thinking in what will fix this mess, or more realistically, what will BEGIN the path of fixing this mess.
I don’t believe it can be but I intend to go down fighting against the idiocy. Continuing to make excuses for why something ‘can’t’ be done is not going to do anything but assist the left in finishing us quicker.
Yoda logic works. Do or don’t do. There is no try. This, as are most issues, is binary. We either fight out 2 years (at least depending on how badly he decides to cling to power) with Barry, allowing a wannabee deity free reign via the GOP funding/inaction, or we fight it.
No failure on our part will result in more evil than he has planned for us to begin with. Ergo there is no downside. And my personal opinion is that people that want to just keep delaying the inevitable are as much a problem as Barry is. I cannot imagine Washington sitting there in 1775 arguing that King George might somehow be mitigated. He fought.
We aren’t at that point yet. Close though. But if we can’t even act on the constitutional provisions that George gave us to fix exactly this situation/A25, we all need to just give in right here and right now because we are pathetic. You, me/Ted Cruz, all of us.
“The alternative is to leave a hard liberal with delusions of Godhood in power.”
The problem is, no matter what we do, there is a 99% percent chance that is going to be the outcome anyway. So you are basically proposing we risk all the outcomes that I enumerated, for almost no chance of avoiding what you claim to want to avoid.
“We have to stop thinking solely in terms of ‘winning’ when that win only worsens the problems. We have to start thinking in what will fix this mess, or more realistically, what will BEGIN the path of fixing this mess.”
Okay, but I haven’t heard you propose anything that might begin to fix it, you are just proposing a fantasy that accomplishes nothing, because it might make us feel like we are doing something.
“Continuing to make excuses for why something ‘can’t’ be done is not going to do anything but assist the left in finishing us quicker.”
They aren’t excuses, they are pragmatic realities. A sitting president has not been forcibly removed from office in the entire history of the United States, and it has never even been attempted by the route you are proposing. Not to mention, such a route would entail basically skirting the intent of the amendment in order to even attempt it, based upon a pretense that only even a minority of the Republican party would accede to. It’s pure fantasy that this would ever yield the result you hope for.
“Yoda logic works. Do or don’t do. There is no try. This, as are most issues, is binary. We either fight out 2 years (at least depending on how badly he decides to cling to power) with Barry, allowing a wannabee deity free reign via the GOP funding/inaction, or we fight it.”
No, it’s not even binary. We don’t have a choice. We can only fight Barry for 2 years, because he is the President we have, and barring some unforeseen circumstance, he’s the only one we are going to get until 2016. It seems like instead of accepting that fact, and thinking of ways we can limit the damage he can do, you just want to fantasize that we can undo the results of an election through some Hail Mary play.
“No failure on our part will result in more evil than he has planned for us to begin with. Ergo there is no downside.”
Yes, our failure could result in more evil. I just demonstrated in my last post how it could lead to more evil, even a 3rd term of Obama. Is that not evil? You want to enable him to serve a third term, by our doing?
“We aren’t at that point yet. Close though. But if we can’t even act on the constitutional provisions that George gave us to fix exactly this situation/A25”
#1.. George didn’t give us Amendment 25, but that’s not important. What is important is #2, the people who wrote Amendment 25 never intended it to be used in this kind of situation. No medical doctor has assessed Obama as being incapable of serving, it’s simply your subjective opinion, based on an obvious rationalization that it might be a way to get around the fact that impeachment won’t work. Yet, impeachment is really the true remedy they gave us to fix this exact situation, not A25. If we could impeach him, it might be worth a shot, but we can’t. Neither can we gain anything by your rather imaginative, but ultimately pointless, proposal.