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To: Norm Lenhart

“Actually I’ll take Biden with a smile.”

I’m sure a lot of people would take Biden over Obama for 2 years. However, by putting Biden in that position, you boost his chances at winning the Presidency in 2016 significantly. An incumbent President running for office has an almost universal advantage, whereas a Vice President running to succeed their President does not. In that case, it’s a two-edged sword: they may get a boost if the previous President was popular, or a disadvantage if the previous President was unpopular.

Then, there is the problem that putting Biden in office potentially allows him to serve for 10 years. I, for one, don’t like that possibility one bit. 10 years is a whole lot of time to pack the Supreme Court, after all.

Also, you open up Republicans to attacks in the 2016 election with such a maneuver, but give them no actual political advantage. We’d just be damaging our chances all around with that move, and basically accomplishing nothing.

There’s even another nightmare scenario to consider: we remove Obama against Biden’s wishes, and Biden becomes President. He is then free to appoint anyone he wishes as Vice President. There is no obstruction to him simply appointing Obama as the Vice President, and then delegating all of the powers of the Presidency right back to Obama, either by resigning outright, or just taking a long vacation, hospital stay, or what have you. If they were really devious, they could leave Obama as Vice President until 2016, get Biden re-elected, and then Biden could resign and give Obama a third term!


19 posted on 10/18/2014 1:21:10 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

The problem is all of the concersn you list, while legitimate, lead to paralysis by analysis. There is always the chance that the dems could capitalize on anything we do. Always. The alternative is to leave a hard liberal with delusions of Godhood in power.

I am not concerned about Republican chances in 16 or any other year. They proved what they are and they need to be replaces with people more concerned about their country than their party to begin with. If there existed such a creature as a conservative Democrat that actually shared my beliefs I’d vote for him hands down. But there is no such creater.

And outside Cruz and two or three others, there is no such thing as a conservative Republican either. On a thread earlier there was a freeper flabberghasted by the thought that Rand Paul was a liberal, though his past few months define it.

We have to stop thinking solely in terms of ‘winning’ when that win only worsens the problems. We have to start thinking in what will fix this mess, or more realistically, what will BEGIN the path of fixing this mess.

I don’t believe it can be but I intend to go down fighting against the idiocy. Continuing to make excuses for why something ‘can’t’ be done is not going to do anything but assist the left in finishing us quicker.

Yoda logic works. Do or don’t do. There is no try. This, as are most issues, is binary. We either fight out 2 years (at least depending on how badly he decides to cling to power) with Barry, allowing a wannabee deity free reign via the GOP funding/inaction, or we fight it.

No failure on our part will result in more evil than he has planned for us to begin with. Ergo there is no downside. And my personal opinion is that people that want to just keep delaying the inevitable are as much a problem as Barry is. I cannot imagine Washington sitting there in 1775 arguing that King George might somehow be mitigated. He fought.

We aren’t at that point yet. Close though. But if we can’t even act on the constitutional provisions that George gave us to fix exactly this situation/A25, we all need to just give in right here and right now because we are pathetic. You, me/Ted Cruz, all of us.


20 posted on 10/18/2014 1:46:41 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Boogieman
Gerald Ford.

With regard to impeachment ...

Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States

25 posted on 10/18/2014 2:59:19 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Boogieman; Norm Lenhart

” I’m sure a lot of people would take Biden over Obama for 2 years. However, by putting Biden in that position, you boost his chances at winning the Presidency in 2016 “

Nah.....Biden suffers from terminal “foot in mouth” disease.
If he took over for the terrorist POTUS, he would lose next time.


41 posted on 10/18/2014 9:29:02 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens. KILL THE BILL!)
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