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Here's How an Ebola Quarantine Would Work in America
The New Republic ^ | October 15, 2014 | Rebecca Leber

Posted on 10/16/2014 9:45:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

On Wednesday, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced that Amber Vinson, the second Dallas health care worker with Ebola, had flown from Cleveland to Dallas on the day before she reported symptoms. Vinson apparently showed no symptoms while on the return flight to Dallas, meaning fellow passengers are at extremely low risk. Still, CDC Director Tom Frieden said in a press conference, "she should not have been on that plane."

It's unclear if the CDC or officials ever instructed the Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital workers caring for Thomas Duncan to avoid crowded areas and not to fly. Vinson, like up to 75 other health care workers who had contact, were told to monitor themselves for early signs of symptoms, like fever. Going forward, Frieden said, the CDC will take steps to ensure no one else in a similar situation travels outside a closed environment—though he didn’t specify what steps he had in mind and neither the CDC nor Department of Homeland Security returned requests to explain this statement....

(Excerpt) Read more at newrepublic.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: ebola; epidemic; fascism; martiallaw; obama; pandemic; quarantine; texas

1 posted on 10/16/2014 9:45:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

heck of a job Tommy


2 posted on 10/16/2014 10:02:23 PM PDT by purplelobster
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
From the article:
"It’s the power to quarantine, ..."

Although this ebola situation is arguably no time to question the federal government’s constitutional limited powers, please note the following. The Supreme Court has historically clarified that the states have never delegated to the feds, expressly via the Constitution, the specific power to quarantine citizens for intrastate medical purposes imo.

It’s the states who have the 10th Amendment-protected power to quarantine citizens for medical purposes.

3 posted on 10/16/2014 10:04:51 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Amendment10

REPEATING YOUR POST, Amendment10:

From the article:
“It’s the power to quarantine, ...”
Although this ebola situation is arguably no time to question the federal government’s constitutional limited powers, please note the following. The Supreme Court has historically clarified that the states have never delegated to the feds, expressly via the Constitution, the specific power to quarantine citizens for intrastate medical purposes imo.

”State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress. [emphases added]” —Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

“Inspection laws, quarantine laws, health laws of every description [emphasis added], as well as laws for regulating the internal commerce of a state and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c., are component parts of this mass.” —Justice Barbour, New York v. Miln., 1837.

It’s the states who have the 10th Amendment-protected power to quarantine citizens for medical purposes.


4 posted on 10/16/2014 10:59:28 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: Amendment10

http://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/historyquarantine.html


5 posted on 10/16/2014 11:05:03 PM PDT by rolling_stone (1984)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hate to say this but voluntary quarantines won’t work until a couple of runners are shot dead.


6 posted on 10/16/2014 11:14:58 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OÂ’Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: rolling_stone; All
Thank you for referencing the CDC page concerning the history of federal quarantine laws.

Please note that in my previous post I had noted that the feds have no power to regulate intrastate medical quarantine policy. I need to clarify that the feds have no power to quarantine US citizens with respect to intrastate issues, such as ordering US citizens to stay home on election day. If it becomes necessary to do so, then that is a state's prerogative.

Regarding federal quarantine laws as they concern the National Quarantine Act of 1878, I suspect that the Marine Hospital Service in New Orleans that was used to check foreigners from the south who were fleeing a yellow fever epidemic is an example of the federal entities listed in the Constitution’s Clause 17 of Section 8 of Article I. Such entities, military hospitals in this case, are under the exclusive control of Congress, the National Quarantine Act constitutionally justified in such a case.

Regarding the later history of federal quarantine laws through the early 20th century, the states were wrong to simply administratively transfer control of quarantine stations to the feds without appropriately delegating such power to the feds with a constitutional amendment. It’s good evidence that the nation was forgetting about the federal government’s constitutionally limited powers by that time.

In fact, note that the 16th, 17th, 18th and 19th Amendments which had been passed by 1920 are examples of the influence of the anti-Constitution, one central government Progressive Movement, the quarantine system fully nationalized by 1921.

7 posted on 10/16/2014 11:57:56 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Amendment10

the 1941 law-fdr about as constitutional as social security


8 posted on 10/17/2014 12:00:33 AM PDT by rolling_stone (1984)
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To: purplelobster

Idiots. All of them. And that includes the latest Ebola case too. She is a nurse. I would think nurses would understand what ‘quarantine’ means.

However, in her defense. the NIH and the CDC do have an obligation to educate people about the this virus and the DEADLY NATURE IF THE ILLNESS. A quarantine means avoiding other folks so as not toe expose them to the virus. Anyone with common sense ought to understand this, and the head honchos of this administration are guilty of not educating the public better.


9 posted on 10/17/2014 3:36:37 AM PDT by Gumdrop (~)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

New tagline ...


10 posted on 10/17/2014 3:38:47 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Without ariplane flights from Africa, the number of Ebola cases in America would be ZERO.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Let’s try that again...

Need a new eye prescription...


11 posted on 10/17/2014 3:41:58 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Without airplane flights from Africa, the number of Ebola cases in America would be ZERO.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Here's the current (0650 EDT 10/17/14) version of the CDC guidance titled "Interim Guidance for Monitoring and Movement of Persons with Ebola Virus Disease Exposure".

It was dated August 22, 2014 and last reviewed August 29, 2014.

Please read it and then explain to me where the document, or anyone following its "recommendations", would have told Amber Vinson she could not travel.

12 posted on 10/17/2014 3:49:38 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: steve86

Steve? Marvin Berkman here from Reality Services Inc., in Hollywood. I’ve seen your idea for a reality TV show and I think it is a real killer of an idea...So we have our Ebola runners start from the center of the running zone with a five minute headstart. The Ebola Enforcers are then turned loose to hunt down and remove the potential threat to society...If the runners make it out of the zone or are not capped in 30 minutes, then they are free to infect, I love it Steve!

I’ll have my people contact your people and we’ll do drinks next week when you’re on the coast...ciao...


13 posted on 10/17/2014 4:01:54 AM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: steve86
Everybody's in favor of quarantines on somebody else.
14 posted on 10/17/2014 4:43:56 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Amendment10
The same liberals who wants every African Hot Zone crazy to come to the United States to infect us - is ALSO the same person who wants to talk boot on face' "Quarantine protocols"....

If I was a tin foil person I would suspect this is a weaponized version of ebola and someone is attempting to conquer the United States.

15 posted on 10/17/2014 5:16:11 AM PDT by GOPJ (The beast roams the earth... there's been a seismic shift in our world. Rabbi Shalom Lewis)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

First they’d come and confiscate our firearms, for our own safety, don’cha know...


16 posted on 10/17/2014 7:27:14 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: JimRed

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


17 posted on 10/17/2014 12:26:35 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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