Posted on 10/16/2014 1:09:31 PM PDT by marktwain
Nashville Police Chief: Secret Service Tried to Fool Armed Homeowner with Fake Search Warrant By Robert Farago on October 16, 2014
“Nashville Police Chief Steve Anderson recently sent a letter to Congress alleging that Secret Service agents asked Nashville police to falsify a warrant so that the agents could search the home of a Nashville resident who had posted about President Obama on Facebook,” benswann.com reports. More specifically, “in January of 2013, Secret Service agents working out of the Nashville field office visited the home of the resident who made the Facebook postings and knocked on his door. Then, an agent called local police and asked for backup, stating that the individual was refusing to let them in without a warrant and appeared to be armed. When Nashville police arrived . . .
they informed the Secret Service agents that the man in question is a licensed gun owner, did not violate the law, and that a warrant would be required in order to investigate further. Chief Anderson said in his letter, “one of the agents then asked a [Nashville police] sergeant to ‘wave a piece of paper’ in an apparent effort to dupe the resident into thinking that they indeed had a warrant.” Faced with a request to violate their oath of office and the rights of a citizen, the officers with the Metro Nashville Police Department flatly refused and left the scene.
No word as to the ultimate fate of the Facebook poster, and no blowback for the Secret Service officers looking to cut Constitutional corners. And now that I think of it . . .
How did the Facebook poster “appear to be armed,” exactly? Also note: Volunteer State citizens don’t need a license to buy a firearm. And there’s no firearms registration. So how did the Nashville cops know the unidentified resident was armed? And the cops just left? That doesn’t sound like normal police procedure to me – especially when the Secret Service made the call.
There’s more to this story than meets the eye. We’ll dig around a bit.
Does the SS have so many spare officers with nothing to do (besides drinking and whoring) that they can’t be bothered to focus on credible instances where warrants are obtainable? I am sure if someone represented a credible threat, a warrant would be easy to obtain.
NJCT? JBT?
Our Constitutional right to free speech was precisely intended to protect political speech.
“Don’t these morons take an oath to defend the Constitution?”
Yah, and so did that PONS posing as POTUS, and that PONS heading the Justice Department...
We all have to stand up to these ‘3-letter’ people. That includes the SS and the FBI. I held my ground with the latter, and I am still here.
In the olden days, this would have resulted in someone doing prison time. Now it’s just an obscure news article that will come and go with nary a trace.
Bump
If such a database exists, it is ILLEGAL, and heads should roll--yes, literally-- for constructing such a monstrosity.
Yes, it's true that BATFEral agents can go to a local gun store, and copy as many Forms 4473 as they can carry. But making a database of them, and then searching it using a citizens' name, is SPECIFICALLY ILLEGAL at the Federal level.
Not that Obama's thugs would obey that law, of course.
Bttt.
5.56mm
The easy answer to this is that under the pressure of the administration, the Secret Service is falling apart.
This has been suggested elsewhere in recent weeks.
Secret Service Director Julia Pierson, testifying before congress on Sept 30, 2014. She resigned two days later.
“This is disgraceful. This is beyond the pale. I wish to God you protected the White House like you are protecting your reputation here today,” said Democratic Rep. Stephen Lynch.
Several legislators hammered at the concern that Secret Service agents feel unable to tell their superiors about security problems. The greatest concern seemed to be with the culture of the Secret Service, if it had become dysfunctional, and if agents were demoralized.
Recurring reports of misbehavior within the agency, cause “many people to ask whether there is a much broader problem with the Secret Service,” said Rep. Elijah Cummings of Maryland, top Democrat on the committee.
Prolly offered up a bottle of licker! That’ll do it!
She was driving a 2 ton weapon around and mentally ill.
And who, pray tell, is going to do the head rolling?
A little story: I was stationed in Germany in 1981 and took with me a snubnose S&W .38. To bring it back again I had to prove that I had bought it before leaving the States.
I wrote to BATF & they replied with a nice letter that stated “our records show that you purchased this revolver SN#XXXXX on October 12, 1973. You may use this letter as proof of prior purchase.”
That was 33 years ago. It’s illegal to place 4473’s in a central file or database? Hmm.....
If you included the make, model and serial number of the revolver in your letter, then they traced the revolver to you by contacting the maker, the wholesaler, and the retailer to obtain the information. That is legal under current law.
It would be illegal if they could put your name into a search engine and the revolver popped up.
There is an exception. There is a law requiring sales of more than two handguns in a week to an individual be reported on a special form. That was done *before* Congress forbid establishment of a national registry. Those guns are in a national database, which was grandfathered in.
“In the olden days, this would have resulted in someone doing prison time. Now it’s just an obscure news article that will come and go with nary a trace.”
Maybe if a Republicans were in the White House, and Democrats controlled Congress.
The big difference now is that there is an article about it, and we can read about it and look at the documents.
Watergate was a media coup to throw a Republican out of office. It demonstrated to politicians and those in the old media that they we really lived in a mediocracy.
In 1983 I did provide the make, model & serial# to BATF because I no longer had the bill of sale which would have sufficed to re-import the gun.
They took that & provided me with the date of purchase & address of the store where I had bought the gun. Back to me in three weeks when overseas mail still took a week to get there.
Since this was not part of a criminal investigation but a request for confirmation of ownership, BATF’s speed in replying was pretty amazing for the time.
IMO I think databases existed even then.
Could explain why nowadays “unpapered” guns are sought after.
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