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Circuit court rules illegal immigrants have a right to bail
The Washington Times ^ | October 15, 2014 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 10/15/2014 7:22:07 PM PDT by jazusamo

Illegal immigrants have the same constitutional right to bail that U.S. citizens do, a federal appeals court ruled Wednesday in a decision striking down an Arizona statute designed to make sure criminals without any community ties didn’t flee in the face of a looming trial.

The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, in a 9-2 decision, ruled that Arizona’s voters, who passed the statute in a 2006 referendum, were actually trying to punish illegal immigrants rather than trying to reduce the risk of flight by those charged with serious felonies. The judges said bail isn’t allowed to be used as punishment, since the accused is innocent until proven guilty.

“Intentionally meting out pretrial punishment for charged but unproven crimes, or the nonexistent crime of being ‘in this country illegally,’ is without question, a violation of due process principles,” Judge Jacqueline H. Nguyen wrote in a concurring opinion.

The case marks the latest time that the 9th Circuit, which covers most of the western U.S., has struck down one of Arizona’s get-tough immigration laws.

An earlier three-judge panel of the same court had upheld Arizona’s law, but Wednesday’s ruling supersedes that.

Immigrant rights advocates said the ruling shows that constitutional rights apply to everyone, regardless of their status.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: 9thcircuit; aliens; arizona; bail; criminals; illegals; immigrants
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The brain dead 9th Circuit strikes again.
1 posted on 10/15/2014 7:22:07 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

If you’re an illegal alien invader or sexual deviant, you’ve got it made in our clown courts.


2 posted on 10/15/2014 7:24:16 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Ebola and Enterovirus-D68. Proud members of Viruses Without Borders.)
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To: jazusamo

And driver’s licenses, mortgages, welfare, food stamps, concierge services, free tuition, etc., etc...


3 posted on 10/15/2014 7:24:35 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: jazusamo

Intentionally meting out pretrial punishment for charged but unproven crimes, or the nonexistent crime of being ‘in this country illegally,’ is without question, a violation of due process principles,” Judge Jacqueline H. Nguyen wrote in a concurring opinion.

Says pedophiles and murderers everywhere. ..

Nguyen isn’t even an American name.


4 posted on 10/15/2014 7:26:00 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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“Nguyen isn’t even an American name.”


Unbelievable !

Exactly what IS an American name ??

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5 posted on 10/15/2014 7:30:36 PM PDT by Mears
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To: jazusamo

Citizenship is overrated.


6 posted on 10/15/2014 7:30:41 PM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: jazusamo

Then I have a right to douse my local illegals with a bleaching agent at the local general store! How many diseases will they be allowed to spread? They’ve already murdered children in Michigan and Jersey.

DEPORT OBOLA’S VIRAL WEAPONS NOW!

Or the people will!


7 posted on 10/15/2014 7:31:32 PM PDT by Viennacon (Obola is a muslim terrorist & his viral illegals need to be deported NOW!)
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No, the people won't. If they won't rise up after all that has happened, they will not rise up until it is too late.

But conservatives love to talk a good story.

8 posted on 10/15/2014 7:34:12 PM PDT by CatOwner
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To: jazusamo

If an arrested person is believed to be a high risk to flee, then bail can be set very high, right?

If a person is lacking in “community ties”, then that sounds like a good reason to crank up the bail.


9 posted on 10/15/2014 7:34:55 PM PDT by Paul R. (Leftists desire to control everything; In the end they invariably control nothing worth a damn.)
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Nguyen isn’t even an American name.

An American name? You mean like Tȟatȟáŋka Íyotake? What do American names look like and how would I spot one?

10 posted on 10/15/2014 7:35:14 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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11 posted on 10/15/2014 7:35:38 PM PDT by jazusamo (Sometimes I think that this is an era when sanity has become controversial: Thomas Sowell)
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To: CatOwner

I think we’re all like frogs lounging in the hot tub marveling at how nice and toasty the water is.


12 posted on 10/15/2014 7:37:54 PM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: jazusamo

This decision NEEDS TO BE CHALLENGED because it defies common sense. An illegal immigrant/criminal has many reasons to flee back home and forfeit bail, and NONE to remain and be tried in an American court.

I know that the 9th Circuit is the Nutty Ninth, but somewhere in America there must be 5 people (i.e. Supreme Court justices) who actually understand what a “flight risk” is.


13 posted on 10/15/2014 7:37:56 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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Absolutely, anyone with an ounce of common sense knows this ruling by the 9th Circus is an abomination.


14 posted on 10/15/2014 7:40:51 PM PDT by jazusamo (Sometimes I think that this is an era when sanity has become controversial: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

No flight risk has right to bail. And having foreign cpuntry to flee to IS a flight risk..


15 posted on 10/15/2014 7:41:52 PM PDT by amihow
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"Illegal immigrants have the same constitutional right to bail that U.S. citizens do, ..."

I don't know where these judges went to law school and I don't want to know. But as mentioned in related threads, official sources, including the Constitution (RTFM), clearly indicate that only US citizens are guaranteed constitutionally enumerated protections.


16 posted on 10/15/2014 7:42:07 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Amendment10

Bttt!


17 posted on 10/15/2014 7:46:16 PM PDT by jazusamo (Sometimes I think that this is an era when sanity has become controversial: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

God forbid a state gets tough on these illegal alien invaders.

Of course bail should be set higher and denied for these criminals. 1) They show a proclivity to break the law by stepping foot on American soil illegally. 2) They are a flight risk.

But then again, you don’t expect common sense out of the 9th Circus.


18 posted on 10/15/2014 7:46:58 PM PDT by NYRepublican72 (Democrats -- it's always someone else's fault.)
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Judge Jacqueline H. Nguyen

Remember all those poor "boat people" we took in from Vietnam? There ya go!

19 posted on 10/15/2014 7:47:41 PM PDT by montag813
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To: jazusamo

And the court has the right to set the bail high enough to ensure the illegal alien doesn’t flee. Most bail bondsmen won’t bail out an illegal alien because they know they will disappear 15 minutes after they make bail.


20 posted on 10/15/2014 7:56:19 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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