Posted on 10/15/2014 8:05:00 AM PDT by tcrlaf
A Liberian Ebola patient was left in an open area of a Dallas emergency room for hours, and the nurses treating him worked for days without proper protective gear and faced constantly changing protocols, according to a statement released late Tuesday by the largest U.S. nurses' union.
Nurses were forced to use medical tape to secure openings in their flimsy garments, worried that their necks and heads were exposed as they cared for a patient with explosive diarrhea and projectile vomiting, said Deborah Burger of National Nurses United. SNIP----
The nurses alleged that: -Duncan was kept in a non-isolated area of the emergency department for several hours, potentially exposing up to seven other patients to Ebola.
-Patients who may have been exposed to Duncan were kept in isolation only for a day before being moved to areas where there were other patients.
-Nurses treating Duncan were also caring for other patients in the hospital.
-Preparation for Ebola at the hospital amounted to little more than an optional seminar for staff.
-In the face of constantly shifting guidelines, nurses were allowed to follow whichever ones they chose.
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With these kind of conditions, it would perhaps be prudent to construct special ebola-treating facilities far removed from population centers.
The border should be closed and anyone trying to illegally cross it should be treated as a potential killer by an armed guard.
Depends. Were they following the recommendation of the Feds or were these their own guidelines? It sounds like they were surprised by the Ebola case and were winging it at first since their own records reflect a tightening of the isolation procedures. Could be that they finally came around to following the CDC protocols.
No need for that. From the story: "The Presbyterian nurses are not represented by Nurses United or any other union. DeMoro and Burger said the nurses claimed they had been warned by the hospital not to speak to the media or they would be fired."
“Preparation for Ebola at the hospital amounted to little more than an optional seminar for staff.
-In the face of constantly shifting guidelines, nurses were allowed to follow whichever ones they chose.”
They clearly violated MANY of the CDC published guidelines.
“Optional seminar”; how astute do you need to be to know that taking extra precautions for an Ebola patient is necessary, and that freely available training should be done.
Look at the picture in post 17. I’m not sure the nurses can exaggerate how bad the protocol situation is.
There’s another post about the CDC conference call today with hospital admins about what the new recommended protocol is for dealing with an suspected case requires.
It’s so expensive, and so labor intensive, that some admins just volunteered that the new protocol would bankrupt hospitals.
If the VA scandal (remember that?) doesn’t sink Obola, this probably will.
Obola disease.
I cant even understand how Duncan was released the first time,
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I don’t think he was I think he left of his own accord..
He certainly didn’t tell them he had Ebola..or mention it..
He kept them guessing for hours while they gave him all the usual tests including a CAT scan...
If that had been me I would have refused to leave and insisted on staying and being admitted..
Its strange that Ebola Man fled to the US because of his Ebola and then refused to tell anyone who could help when he was in the hospital ER..
Obama would never do anything "prudent" and in the interest of the American people.
It would only interrupt the goal for his grand marxist utopia.
And a few more hundred rounds of golf.
Cleveland to Dallas..
so how did she get to Cleveland ???
I think you can call them all incompetent. Blind adherence to fedgov recommendations by healthcare personnel on the ground — who likely had some inkling that the fed recommendations were inadequate — is also incompetent. You can’t be sheeple. THAT SAID, I don’t think the blame falls to the nurse level. The hospital ID docs should have countermanded the inadequate fed recommendations.
It's not particularly strange behavior for a suicide terrorist. Some folks in this fallen world think that their one-way ticket to paradise is to strap on a shrapnel bomb and kill as many infidels as possible when they blow themselves up. It's not a stretch of the imagination to think that the same sort of people would try it with a biological weapon.
Those who volunteer working for social ministries had better be careful.
Many of those asking for assistance from these ministries are in contact with the likes of Duncan’s family, who are now in quarantine themselves.
Its so expensive, and so labor intensive, that some admins just volunteered that the new protocol would bankrupt hospitals.
That reasoning is due to them thinking in their insulated, not subject to antitrust laws, pricing structure. You know, the structure where a pillow is $800 and an aspirin $50...
That photo was always Obama’s fantasy, having a white man’s face right there.
“That reasoning is due to them thinking in their insulated, not subject to antitrust laws, pricing structure. You know, the structure where a pillow is $800 and an aspirin $50...”
Are you talking about the world where the liability insurance on a single OB/GYN is $89K/year?
That’s why aspirin cost $50 a pill. It’s the thing they never even bothered LOOKING AT in Obolacare.
http://annals.org/article.aspx?articleid=1899515
“These investigations affirm the appropriateness of the infection control practices recommended by the CDC. A fluid-impervious gown, gloves, a surgical mask, and a face shield are adequate to protect health care personnel from direct contact with blood or other body fluids during routine care. N95 masks or personal respirators are only necessary during aerosol-generating procedures.
Exceeding these recommendations may paradoxically increase risk. Introducing new and unfamiliar forms of personal protective equipment could lead to self-contamination during removal of such gear. Requiring HazMat suits and respirators will probably decrease the frequency of providerpatient contacts, inhibit providers’ ability to examine patients, and curtail the use of diagnostic tests.”
Hospitals can’t win this one. They just can’t. lawyers on both sides of this will sue them into non existence. But only the for profit ones. the rest will be indemnified one way or another.
and this may be one of the ‘unexpected and certainly unplanned’ side effects of keeping the visa mills open. destruction of for profit hospitals. I’m sure the left has never considered this. not. at. all.
Don’t know the source of those images, but people taking pics of a patient while in the hospital and releasing them to the public is NOT cool!
Though you can’t really identify the patient, that’s a TERRIBLE violation of privacy and a HIPAA violation.
“Dont know the source of those images, but people taking pics of a patient while in the hospital and releasing them to the public is NOT cool!
Though you cant really identify the patient, thats a TERRIBLE violation of privacy and a HIPAA violation.”
Notify our Surgeon General if you can find out who it is?
Then Notify OSHA about the work place safety violations due to the CDC haz mat recommendations for hospital workers.
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