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To: Bettyprob

OK, I’m probably going to take some heat on this one, but what is the point in having two classes of crime, adult and juvenile, if we are just going to arbitrarily throw juvenile out when a judge decides a crime is “really bad”? If a 10 year old isn’t a juvenile for all things, then what age is? 9? 8?

Why not just have one charge, in this case murder, that covers both and go to trial? Then, after conviction, let the factor of the perps age be considered (or not considered) by the judge at sentencing. Better than going through this Kabuki dance of he’s a juvenile, but because what he did was really bad, were going to pretend he’s not a juvenile in this case


13 posted on 10/14/2014 5:33:39 AM PDT by SoCalTransplant (Either the parasites kill the host, or the host removes the parasites. By amputation if needed.)
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To: SoCalTransplant

I was writing my response as you were posting yours. Great Minds Think Alike.


15 posted on 10/14/2014 5:36:31 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (Let those Ebola-carrying Liberians into the USA. What could go wrong?)
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To: SoCalTransplant

It is weird, as most of the time the law is completely arbitrary (driving at 16; consenting for sex at 16; smoking at 18; drinking at 21; etc. etc.), with no regard for the fact that different people are at different maturity levels when they reach those ages, yet in this one instance there is nuance.


22 posted on 10/14/2014 5:41:20 AM PDT by Bettyprob
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To: SoCalTransplant; TruthShallSetYouFree
That's kinda spooky, y'all    d:^)
27 posted on 10/14/2014 5:47:09 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: SoCalTransplant

For less serious crimes it gives kids an opportunity to learn without minor infractions screwing up their entire life.

Keep in mind treating children like adults is a leftist goal. It frees them from the parents giving the state more control.


29 posted on 10/14/2014 5:49:15 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: SoCalTransplant

How many people can he kill before we are allowed to do anything?


31 posted on 10/14/2014 5:56:57 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: SoCalTransplant

“OK, I’m probably going to take some heat on this one,”

More heat. You should have read the article.


41 posted on 10/14/2014 6:19:07 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: SoCalTransplant

Personally, I’m willing to entirely dispose of the entire category of “juvenile crime” as a failed experiment. The crime is the same no matter what the criminal’s age.


42 posted on 10/14/2014 6:20:57 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: SoCalTransplant

I agree. And there reasons for why younger children are doing these sorts of things, like the girls did who acted out a murderous tale on a classmate. Children these days are exposed to moral mayhem in all sorts of ways. It’s almost completely up to the adults (very often not their parents) in their lives to preserve as much of their childhood innocence as possible while trying to guide them correctly. Then also, in many cases, antidepressants are given to troubled children already fed all sorts of mixed-up ideas and result in horrendous crimes, but the drug link is completely covered up.


61 posted on 10/14/2014 7:35:32 AM PDT by Faith Presses On
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To: SoCalTransplant

A juvenile cannot be charged with homiciide in PA. Homicide implies intent and a real juvenile is not considered capable of intentionally taking the life of anyone. So, when intent is clear, they charge as an adult.


62 posted on 10/14/2014 7:39:36 AM PDT by Eva
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