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To: nathanbedford; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj

The founders were men of great commons sense, they 100% would have supported the 17th amendment when it was proposed if they still lived. Despite what he may think, Mark Levin is NOT a founding father.


117 posted on 10/28/2014 3:19:34 PM PDT by Impy (Voting democrat out of spite? Then you are America's enemy, like every other rat voter.)
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To: Impy

Isn’t Levin’s face on Mount Rushmore, next to Glenn Beck’s ? ;-)


119 posted on 10/28/2014 3:32:22 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Impy; fieldmarshaldj
My goodness, what powers of second sight you possess.

The founders who certainly knew about direct representation having vested it in the House of Representatives consciously declined to do so in the Senate. They were fully aware of the vices as well as the virtues of popular representation. They were also fully aware of the virtues of federalism and the need to maintain the states as a separate power from the federal government rather than it supplicants as they now have become.

Anyone who without further proof asserts second sight about the intention of the framers at the turn of the 20th century must concede, to be logically consistent, that the framers would also have supported the prohibition amendment. And since your second sight extends to knowing that they would not today seek to repeal the 17th amendment, you must also concede that they would have opposed repealing the prohibition amendment. Anyone who knows how much George Washington spent buying booze on election day, knows how absurd it is to impute such motives to our founders.

I suppose when we're in the business of making sweeping pronouncements it doesn't matter overmuch what the state of our knowledge is. If you're going to assert future knowledge for the founders you might as well go whole hog, as you did, and assert that "100%" would support your position. Funny, not 100% of them supported their own Constitution.

I prefer to rest on the Constitution they actually wrote when I am in the business of telling the world what they actually meant.


120 posted on 10/29/2014 1:03:56 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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