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Ah, yes, it was just about sex, right MSM?
1 posted on 10/11/2014 4:01:57 AM PDT by PROCON
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To: PROCON

Imagine a Monica episode in today’s environment, with a non-Hillary in the White House. Totally different outcome.


2 posted on 10/11/2014 4:03:25 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: PROCON

All one has to do is look at the pardons bill gave as he left office. He’s a scumbag.


4 posted on 10/11/2014 4:15:08 AM PDT by refermech
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To: PROCON

Clinton was always sleazy and corrupt, and he was brutal when it served his interests. He was also dramatically better than Obama and never intentionally harmed our country for the sake of destruction, only for personal benefit. I miss him.


5 posted on 10/11/2014 4:39:57 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: PROCON

Talk about a War on Women….Clinton and the Democrats tried to destroy all the victims of Clinton’s serial sexual attacks. But women continue to vote for Democrats, the classic battered wife syndrome. Perhaps women shouldn’t have been given the vote if they have no more powers of reason that this.


7 posted on 10/11/2014 4:44:40 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: PROCON
For all of you reminiscing about "good old Bill", remember that this scandal was all about integrity in the Presidency. Bill Clinton lied directly, indirectly, and under oath without the slightest flicker of conscience.

All he ever really had to do was 'fess up right away and the firestorm would have subsided - he had the press totally on his side, just like Obola - and he could have kept right on going. Instead, he wasted millions of taxpayer dollars and dragged the investigations out for years all to hide the truth that came out anyway.

Real leaders never lie. He has always had fatal flaws to his personality and we need a better system of selecting our leaders. Don't make noises like you miss the crud that was and is Bill Clinton.

9 posted on 10/11/2014 4:56:32 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: PROCON

Media bias is a given especially when they started taking polls on....a prosecutor? Who does that?

I’m sure we all remember the Clintonistas telling us that he could ‘compartmentalize’ and do his job. The reality was completely the opposite as he became obsessed along with the rest of them.


13 posted on 10/11/2014 5:06:16 AM PDT by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The Ends)
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To: PROCON

Clinton’s harm to the country was at least equal to that wrought by Obama. They are just different harms. Obama has significantly weakened the idea of Constitutional government: Clinton pushed us further along the path of moral and cultural degradation.


23 posted on 10/11/2014 5:53:26 AM PDT by yetidog
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To: PROCON
Clearing the ground for she who would be Queen.


25 posted on 10/11/2014 5:56:29 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: PROCON

Correction>>>>
How the White House tried to handle Monica Lewinsky after Clinton got caught handling her.


28 posted on 10/11/2014 6:05:23 AM PDT by billhilly (.Have you heard the latest Joe Biden whopper?)
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To: PROCON

31 posted on 10/11/2014 6:12:34 AM PDT by Brother Cracker (You are more likely to find krugerrands in a Cracker Jack box than 22 ammo at Wal-Mart)
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To: PROCON

I remember the filthy pig beating up Juanita Bradrick and threatening to close down her nursing homes if she told on him.

Now his awful wife wants to run our country.To finish what Obama started and destroying AMERICA.

http://www.wnd.com/2003/06/19242/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KZ8ICvutc0


32 posted on 10/11/2014 6:13:11 AM PDT by PLD
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To: PROCON
For those who may have forgotten what kind of a President Bill Clinton was:

1) Clinton’s own words show his often expressed innate hostility to, and utter contempt for, the core principles of the American founding:

``If the personal freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution inhibit the government’s ability to govern the people, we should look to limit those guarantees.’’ -- President Bill Clinton, August 12, 1993

``The purpose of government is to reign in the rights of the people’’ –- Bill Clinton during an interview on MTV in 1993

``We can’t be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans…that we forget about reality.’’ -- President Bill Clinton, quoted in USA Today, March 11, 1993, Page 2A, ``NRA change: `Omnipotent to powerful’’’ by Debbie Howlett

“When we got organized as a country and we wrote a fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of individual freedom to Americans, it was assumed that the Americans who had that freedom would use it responsibly… that they would work for the common good, as well as for the individual welfare… However, now there’s a lot of irresponsibility. And so a lot of people say there’s too much freedom. When personal freedom’s being abused, you have to move to limit it.” – Bill Clinton, April 19, 1995

2) Clinton inevitably pursued his own political advantage at the expense of American interests and national security. Here is just one of many possible examples:

It is well documented that Clinton and the Democrats took illegal campaign money from groups and individuals tied directly to the Chinese People’s Republican Army. It is therefore not surprising that In January 1998 Clinton went against the advice of then-Secretary of State Warren Christopher and Pentagon experts by lifting long-standing restrictions against the export of American satellites to China for launch on Chinese rockets. Not only did he move control over such decisions from the more security-focused State Department to the Commerce Department, but he intervened in a Justice Department investigation of Loral Space & Communications, retroactively enabling Loral to sell critical missile technology to the Chinese. Interestingly enough, Clinton’s decision was made at the request of Loral CEO Bernard Schwartz, whose earlier $1.3 million campaign donation made him the single biggest contributor to the Democratic election effort.

The result, as stated eloquently by syndicated columnist Linda Bowles, was that “the Democrats got money from satellite companies and from Chinese communists; China got supercomputors, advanced production equipment and missile technology; Loral got its satellites launched at bargain basement prices . . . and the transfer of sensitive missile technology gave China [for the first time] the capability of depositing bombs on American cities.” Incidentally, Loral ultimately failed to benefit from this permanent injury to America’s security interests: in July 2003, the company filed for bankruptcy protection, and in order to raise cash was forced to sell its most profitable business – a fleet of communications satellites orbiting over North America.

3) On two occasions, Clinton used military action for the specific purpose of distracting the American public from the fallout of the Lewinsky affair:

• On August 20, three days after Clinton finally admitted publicly to the Lewinsky affair, the news media was poised to focus on that day’s grand jury testimony by Monica Lewinsky. That same morning, Clinton personally went on national television to gravely announce his bombing of a Sudanese “chemical weapons factory,” and a terrorist training camp in Afghanistan. It was the first time most Americans ever heard the name of Osama bin Laden. The factory bombing in Sudan killed an innocent night watchman, but accomplished little else. It later was proven that the plant was making badly needed pharmaceuticals for people in that poverty-stricken part of the world, but no chemical weapons.

Several months later, the U.S. Center for Nonproliferation Studies, part of the Monterey Institute of International Studies, stated: "...the evidence indicates that the facility had no role whatsoever in chemical weapons development." Kroll Associates, one of the world's most reputable investigative firms, also confirmed that there was no link in any way between the plant and any terrorist organization. As for the Afghanistan bombing, it failed to do any damage at all to bin Laden or his organization. Clinton’s action was accurately characterized by George W. Bush when he said right after 9-11: "When I take action, I’m not going to fire a $2 million missile at a $10 empty tent and hit a camel in the butt.

Clinton’s pointless and murderous military actions did not make Americans safer that day, although they did destroy an innocent life, and for all the good they did certainly could have been delayed in any case. But they did succeed in diverting media attention from Lewinsky’s grand jury testimony for a 24-hour news cycle, which was the main point. So I guess, they weren’t a total loss.

•On December 16, 1998, on the eve of the scheduled House vote on his impeachment, Bill Clinton launched a surprise bombing attack on Baghdad. As justification for this exploit, he cited the urgent threat that Saddam’s weapons of mass destruction posed to America, and the need for immediate action. Almost immediately, the House Democrats held a caucus and emerged calling for a delay in the impeachment proceedings. House minority leader Dick Gephardt made a statement: "We obviously should pass a resolution by saying that we stand behind the troops. I would hope that we do not take up impeachment until the hostilities have completely ended."

Conveniently, a delay so near the end of the House term would have caused the vote to be taken up in the next session – when the newly elected House membership would be seated with more Democratic representation, thereby improving Clinton’s chances of dodging impeachment.

The Republicans did, in fact, agree to delay the hearings, but only for a day or two. Amazingly, Clinton ended the bombing raid after only 70 hours -- once it became clear that in spite of the brief delay, the vote would still be held in the current session.

Once the bombing stopped, Clinton touted the effectiveness and importance of the mission. As reported by ABC News : “We have inflicted significant damage on Saddam's weapons of mass destruction programs, on the command structures that direct and protect that capability, and on his military and security infrastructure,” he said. Defense secretary William Cohen echoed the point: “We estimate that Saddam's missile program has been set back by at least a year.”

Whether or not one buys Clinton’s assessment of that mission, it is difficult to believe that its timing was so critical that it required commencement virtually at the moment the House was scheduled to vote on the impeachment. I think the most reasonable conclusion is that Clinton cynically deployed US military assets and placed military personnel in harm’s way for purely political reasons.

4) Clinton’s reckless sexual behavior was a threat to American national security:

Clinton and his supporters have been very effective in persuading large numbers of Americans that the Lewinsky scandal was “only about sex.” But I see a bigger issue here, because Clinton is on record as saying that he would have done anything to keep knowledge of the Lewinsky affair from becoming public.

To me, that statement raises a very serious question: What if, instead of sending her recorded Lewinsky conversations to Ken Starr, Linda Tripp had instead secretly offered them for sale, say, to the Chinese government? Or to the Russians? Or even to agents of Saddam?

What kind of blackmail leverage would those tapes have provided to a foreign government in dealing with America on sensitive trade, security or military issues? One of the few things Clinton ever said that I believe is that he would have done anything to keep the Lewinsky affair secret. Given his demonstrated track record of selling out American interests for personal or political gain (and there are more examples that I could have cited here), how far would he have gone in compromising America’s real interests in order to protect his own neck when threatened with blackmail?

Pretty far, I believe. Equally distressing is the prospect Clinton might, in fact, have succumbed to foreign black mail on other occasions in order to hide different sexual episodes that ultimately did not become public. There is no way to know, of course, but I prefer presidents for whom such a scenario is not a plausible possibility.

And don’t even get me started on the war crime in Kosovo.

WAR IN KOSOVO

During Bill Clinton’s 1999 NATO-led war in Kosovo – which according to some estimates cost as much as $75 billion – we bombed Belgrade for 78 days, killed almost 3,000 civilians, and shredded the civilian infrastructure (including every bridge across the Danube.)

We devastated the environment, bombed the Chinese embassy, came very close to engaging in armed combat against Russian forces, and in general, pursued a horrific and inhumane strategy to rain misery on the civilian population of Belgrade in order to pressure Milosevic into surrendering.

Why did we do all that? The US did not even have an arguable interest in the Balkans, and no one ever tried to claim that Serbia represented any kind of threat to our nation or our interests.

But for months the Clinton administration had told us that Milosevic was waging a vicious genocide against Albanian Muslims, and needed to be stopped. The New York Times called it a “humanitarian war.” In March 1999 – the same month that the bombing started – Clinton’s State Department publicly suggested that as many as 500,000 Albanian Kosovars had been murdered by Milosevic’s regime. In May of that year, as the bombing campaign was drawing to a close, Secretary of Defense William Cohen lowered that estimate 100,000.

Five years after the bombing, after all the forensic investigations had been completed, the prosecutors at Milosevic’s “War Crimes” trial in the Hague were barely been able to document a questionable figure of perhaps 5,000 “bodies and body parts.” During the war, the American people were told that Kosovo was full of mass graves filled with the bodies of murdered Albanian Muslims. But none were ever found.

BILL CLINTON ECONOMIC PERFORMANCE

During the election cycle of 1992, George H.W. Bush lost his job after Bill Clinton hammered him relentlessly for having caused the “worst economy of the last 50 years.”

In fact, as CNN’s Brooke Jackson has reported: “Three days before Christmas 1992, the National Bureau of Economic Research finally issued its official proclamation that the recession had ended 21 months earlier. What became the longest boom in U.S. history actually began nearly two years before Clinton took office.” See (See http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/10/31/jackson.recession.primer.otsc/).

By the same token, Clinton is generally perceived as having a stellar economic record during his own presidency, in spite of the fact that the economy was already starting to decline during the last year of his term after the stock market crashed in March 2000.

According to a report by MSNBC: “The longest economic expansion in U.S. history faltered so much in the summer of 2000 that business output actually contracted for one quarter, the government said Wednesday in releasing a comprehensive revision of the gross domestic product. Based on new data, the Commerce Department said that the GDP — the country’s total output of goods and services — shrank by 0.5 percent at an annual rate in the July-September quarter of 2000.” See: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3676690/ns/business-stocks_and_economy/t/gdp-figures-revised-downward/.

37 posted on 10/11/2014 6:51:02 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: PROCON

Imagine a President Hillary with her own sex scandal and not with a male intern.


40 posted on 10/11/2014 6:59:00 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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How the White House tried to handle Monica Lewinsky

Interesting, but how the White House handled the Vince Foster death will be far more interesting. Is there any information revealed regarding Foster?

42 posted on 10/11/2014 7:32:23 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, trust few, and always paddle your own canoe.)
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To: PROCON

What in the world is a constitutional crisis?


44 posted on 10/11/2014 7:55:24 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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FYI: Carrie Budoff Brown started in journalism at the York Daily Record in the summer before her freshman year in college. She worked as an editor at The Daily Targum, the student-run newspaper of Rutgers University, and interned at the Richmond Times Dispatch and the New York Times. She worked as a staff writer at the Hartford Courant and the Philadelphia Inquirer before arriving at POLITICO on the day it launched in 2007. Budoff Brown is now a White House reporter who focuses on the intersection of policy and politics in the administration and on Capitol Hill. She has covered the Senate, the 2008 Obama campaign, the health care overhaul bill, Wall Street reform and various tax cut battles in Congress. Source: Politico http://www.politico.com/reporters/CarrieBudoffBrown.html

Emphasis added. Politico is suspect.

45 posted on 10/11/2014 8:00:24 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (There will be another crusade in our lifetime.)
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To: PROCON

The Real War on Women


49 posted on 10/11/2014 8:23:05 AM PDT by woofie
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To: PROCON

Funny thing is that M(BJ)L probably still blames Tripp.

Truth being, if not for Tripp convincing (BJ) to save the blue dress, (BJ) would probably ended up being a part of National Airport expansion, not even given the ‘ride’ to Fort Marcy overlook.

Then again Tripp did raise enough stink to remain breathing though believe it was Luci Goldberg(?) that was ‘Tripps’ adviser.

Think her and her son also got their ‘15 minutes’ off the back of Tripp etal....


50 posted on 10/11/2014 8:46:24 AM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98) Close your eyes. Think of a place where your opinion may matter. GO THERE.)
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To: PROCON

I already know all that I will ever want to know about the scum-sucking Clintons.

What I don’t know with certainty is why politico would bother with such an article. Perhaps they think that if the Clinton sex/rape conversation is re-litigated it will help bring out the democrat voters.


61 posted on 10/11/2014 12:25:12 PM PDT by Gator113 ( Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin and Mike Lee speak for me, most everyone else is just noise.)
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