Posted on 10/10/2014 4:27:18 AM PDT by Mean Daddy
Memo to future jurors: This may be the most disastrous way to get out of jury duty.
A Douglas County juror grew increasingly panicked this week as the brief trial of a sex offender, accused of failing to register, spilled into a second day.
The trial began Wednesday with the juror mentioning how he didn’t want to miss work because of all the bills he had to pay.
It ended Thursday with the juror in a jail cell, a judge fuming, veteran court officials shaking their heads and the sex offender acquitted.
“I’ve never seen anything like it,” said prosecutor Tom McKenney, who has been practicing for 36 years.
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A lowly Juror should not talk smack about the master race...
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“Well, they’re just wasting their time anyway because I think he’s guilty,” he told Friend.
A pause.
“And he’s black,” the juror said.
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“And how is a draft not involuntary servitude?”
Because it is a Constitutionally required civic duty?
Freedom isn’t free.
I believe the judge was already drinking if he thinks the US Constitution requires registration for the draft and service on juries.
Personally, in this overworked and underpaid society, I think the courts should run jury trials only on evenings and weekends. Paying some poor slob $5 a day to miss work is unconscionable. The government pays people thousands of dollars a month to do nothing, the least they could do is try to accomodate the needs of working people who are submitting themselves to involuntary service.
Just do the jury trials Monday through Friday from 5:30 to 9:30 and all day Saturday amd Sunday. Then maybe people would not be so reluctant to serve.
One time I stated “The roads would be so much safer if all the women were home where they belonged” during the initial questioning, and they sent me home.
“...Then maybe people would not be so reluctant to serve.”
Perhaps keep the bad guys in jail long enough for them to learn not to be criminals, so jurors don’t feel like they’re putting the same people in jail over and over again.
Every time I see that MSNBC show “Lockup,” I get the feeling that civilization has failed those people (and us) somehow.
Avoiding sitting on a jury is easy. You have to be smart and appear to be intelligent. Lawyers do not like smart, intelligent people on their juries because they can’t manipulate them. Lawyers want dumb-down, duh! kind of folks so they can control them. I’ve been called many times but never had to serve.
My wife tells me the story of when she was called to serve one time. It was a trial about domestic abuse where a man was accused of beating up his wife. The lawyers were going around the courtroom asking questions to ascertain which people to pick for the jury. One of the questions asked by the defense lawyer was, “Can you remain objective about a man who beats his wife?” My wife says she listened as prospective juror after prospective juror answered the question “yes”. Well, when it was her turn, she stood up and said, “Not only no, but hell no!”.
She was home for lunch within the hour.
The judge and both counsels get paid to be there. The bailiff and the court reporter get paid. Why don’t the jurors get paid? I agree some may want to prolong the trial, milking the per diem but that’s no worse than the number who will want to speed the trial so they can get back to their jobs.
Wear an NRA ball cap to the jury selection process, you are gone.
I once wanted to be selected to a murder trial jury and had to be very selective and creative with some questions/answers, and was selected...the trial never happened, the guilty perp plead out to avoid the death penalty.
I was paid each time. Five dollars a day, pre-tax.
Jurors get paid. I am surprised how many people do not know that. And in most cases, employers pay the difference if you don’t get paid what you would have made working (full time and in some cases even regular part time gets that).
In addition if you stay over night you get a per diem and you can eat pretty well and stay in a nice hotel room.
If you have to travel you get travel expenses.
Where the idea comes from that you serve for free is beyond me.
Best one I ever heard:
The Court is reviewing witness conflicts, and names a Dr. So and So from Boston as an expert witness, and then asks if anyone is related to him. A young woman sheepishly raises her hand and says "I had an affair with a Dr. So and So from that town a couple of years ago, but we broke up when he decided to stay with his wife. I'm not sure its the same Dr., but I thought I should mention it in case he was."
You never saw a team of attorneys move so fast to get a juror excused and out of the room.
Did they weed out felons from the jury pool first?
Not in Colorado. I wore my Front Sight t-shirt for jury selection. Wrote of my NRA life membership on the questionnaire. I was the first selected.
The logo on the Front Sight t-shirt says "You are the weapon, your pistol is just a tool".
All he had to say was when in juror screening is that he is a conservative, listens to Rush Limbaugh, and assumes all liberals or groups they deem “special” are guilty of crimes they’re accused of. That’s what I would say!
Make sure everybody knows you are a law and order kind of person and look forward to making someone pay for their crimes.
The Constitution does not even mention the word “draft.” It is NOT a constitutional requirement for people to serve in the military. The Constitution DOES authorize Congress to “raise armies,” but makes no mention of using force to do so.
There is no way you can logically argue that a person forced under threat of violence to leave his home, take up arms, and risk his life is not subjected to involuntary servitude — by definition.
Note that I am not talking about one’s MORAL obligation to defend one’s country. I am talking only about the contradiction between the draft and the 13th Amendment.“Involuntary servitude” has been legally defined as “a condition of servitude in which the victim is forced to work for the defendant by the use or threat of physical restraint or physical injury or by the use or threat of coercion through law or the legal process.”
I ask again, how is a military draft NOT involuntary servitude?
...and then he'll turn over your personal contact information to the IRS for an audit.
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