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Some Ebola experts worry virus may spread more easily than assumed [BO & CDC Lying?]
LA TIMES ^ | 10/7/14 | David Willman

Posted on 10/07/2014 7:11:37 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

.....some scientists who have long studied Ebola say [federal government] assurances are premature — and they are concerned about what is not known about the strain now on the loose. It is an Ebola outbreak like none seen before, jumping from the bush to urban areas, giving the virus more opportunities to evolve as it passes through multiple human hosts.

Dr. C.J. Peters, who battled a 1989 outbreak of the virus among research monkeys housed in Virginia and who later led the CDC's most far-reaching study.....

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: deathpanels; disease; ebola; obamafail; plague
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To: C210N

21 posted on 10/07/2014 7:39:48 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Do you Typhoid Mary take this Ebola Berry to be your lawfully wedded husband?

I do.

Do you Ebola Berry take this Typhoid Mary to be your lawfully wedded wife?

I do.

I now pronounce you husband and wife.

You may now infect the country.


22 posted on 10/07/2014 7:50:36 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: SoFloFreeper

“Viruses mutate. Seems the “watchdog media” decided not to ask about that fact.”

You’ve hit the nail on its head. Those mutations which most easily spread the virus will give it a reproductive advantage and will be selected for all other things being the same. The lack of any more cases out of Dallas is curious though. The strain found from the priest in Spain seems more aggressive.


23 posted on 10/07/2014 7:52:37 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: JimSEA

I suspect the dallas contacts are being prophylactically medicated with the drug they gave the initial contact in the hospital.

http://thescoopblog.dallasnews.com/2014/10/ebola-patient-receives-experimental-treatment-in-dallas-hospital.html/


24 posted on 10/07/2014 7:53:50 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: redgolum

I wish I understood what you were trying to say here.
Who is ‘wishing for a full out break in the U.S.’

I see people attempting to find the truth through all the fog of daily misinformation.


25 posted on 10/07/2014 7:55:47 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: Black Agnes

Other thread has the rest of the quote. The one about “spreading in confined spaces”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3212303/posts?page=1#1

Confined describes air travel....


26 posted on 10/07/2014 7:57:06 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: WildHighlander57

I suspect this is ‘different’ from the open air tent treatment facilities used in the bush in Africa. So our ‘ideas’ about ease of transmissibility in a clinical setting may not reflect the reality of those when the clinical setting is changed from an open air tent to an enclosed ward or private room in a hospital setting.


27 posted on 10/07/2014 7:58:40 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: boycott

***My guess is that Thomas Duncan didn’t have a fever when he flew to the USA so just checking for fever at the airport is not enough.***

When my kids were in grade school, I heard one mom brag that she would give iboprofen to her kids when they had fevers, and send them to school anyway. She would say that she couldn’t afford to stay off from work, and couldn’t afford a babysitter either. So she’d send them to school for the first few days with a fever. It was her impression that they could always go to the school nurse if they felt really sick at school. It made me so mad to even be around her.

Needless to say, all this talk about checking for fevers at airports is silly. Anyone can get rid of a fever for several hours at a time with ibuprofen. Just keep taking doses of it every few hours. The only way to accurately tell whether or not somebody is infected is to have a test that can measure how much you have in your system. I don’t think we have any yet that are sensitive enough that are also quick.


28 posted on 10/07/2014 8:04:15 AM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: Black Agnes

If it spreads quicker in confined spaces, then we are in deep trouble...


29 posted on 10/07/2014 8:42:22 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: dforest
I am pleasantly surprised we have not seen symptoms yet. Knock on wood and keep fingers crossed.
30 posted on 10/07/2014 8:45:06 AM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: WildHighlander57

I said this over a month ago.


31 posted on 10/07/2014 8:45:22 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Chgogal

The second Nigerian cluster at Port Harcourt was also unusual.

Then you read stuff like this:

http://www.nigerianeye.com/2014/09/fighting-ebola-nigeria-seeks-japanese.html

Which is a structural analog of the Lamivudine that the Liberian doctor is using:

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/27/health/ebola-hiv-drug/

Which is also a structural analog of this drug:

http://thescoopblog.dallasnews.com/2014/10/ebola-patient-receives-experimental-treatment-in-dallas-hospital.html/


32 posted on 10/07/2014 8:48:16 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: redgolum
Just look at the posters here who seem to be asking for a full out break in the US in order to “prove” we have a robust terrorism response

I'm not sure what you mean by that.

I don't think anyone here wants an outbreak on these shores, regardless of what scientific or political point that might prove.

We already know enough about this disease to know the domestic responses to an outbreak of a BioSafety Level 4 pathogen have been pathetic at best and criminally negligent at worst.

It is one thing to bring people here in a 'bubble' for treatment, quite another to have them arrive 'unexpectedly', and still another to keep issuing visas to people from outbreak nations.

33 posted on 10/07/2014 9:10:33 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

There are a few posters who keep saying that we need to be sending people to the outbreak zones, back here, and to not be worried about the Dallas case because it is a live fire testing of our bio terrorism response.

They are against flight restrictions, quarantine, or any other measure like that since it would tell our “enemies” they we are afraid of bio terrorism.


34 posted on 10/07/2014 9:10:57 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: JoyjoyfromNJ

Great article!


35 posted on 10/07/2014 9:31:04 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue (I have no home. I'm the wind.)
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...
Ping...

A link to this thread has been posted on the Ebola Surveillance Thread

36 posted on 10/07/2014 9:32:22 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: redgolum

Thank you for explaining, I missed the nuance of your post.


37 posted on 10/07/2014 9:42:23 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: TangledUpInBlue
An early story about the disease - - a doctor in Africa commented that patients looked healthy almost up to the point of death.
38 posted on 10/07/2014 9:58:14 AM PDT by GOPJ ("The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants" - Albert Camus)
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To: inkfarmer
The virus “jumped”.

pResident Obola jumped the virus.


39 posted on 10/07/2014 10:00:21 AM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: C210N

Someone needs to ‘shop the Obola logo onto that airplane.


40 posted on 10/07/2014 10:03:01 AM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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