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To: Borges

Would this be a mortal sin in God’s eyes? If you’re going to die anyways?

I am going to go out on a limb here and lean towards yes. Jesus suffered for us. To not suffer your final hours and die as He intended, would that not be unforgivable? However, we are all sinners and no where close to as Holy as Jesus is. In this life, we can never be.


7 posted on 10/07/2014 7:08:53 AM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: FreedomStar3028

I don’t think so. It’s more of a sin to try and extend life when it’s not viable to do so, meaning that spending tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of dollars when your condition is inevitably terminal.

It’s better to get your affairs in order and do some amount of good in your final days and just keep yourself comfortable until the end.


18 posted on 10/07/2014 7:19:20 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: FreedomStar3028

“To not suffer your final hours and die as He intended”

Your reasoning would make anyone who has hospice care, guilty of the unforgivable. It’s ridiculous.


19 posted on 10/07/2014 7:19:37 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: FreedomStar3028

Jesus suffered for us. To not suffer your final hours and die as He intended, would that not be unforgivable?

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His suffering was to serve a purpose. Can we say the same about this woman’s suffering? Even so, the suffering of Jesus on the cross was of much shorter duration that of others who were crucified.


28 posted on 10/07/2014 7:31:12 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: FreedomStar3028

You would have to have complete ignorance of the Bible to not understand that suffering is something we must endure and something that has infinite value to God. Jesus knew his fate and could have chosen this route as well. But then we wouldn’t have salvation now would we? I pray she reconsiders. It is sad all around.


50 posted on 10/07/2014 7:48:30 AM PDT by Phillyred
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To: FreedomStar3028
Intentional suicide is a mortal sin. It is like a soldier abandoning is post. You stay where you're put until the Lord of Life says otherwise.

In some cases, personal guilt is mitigated because the person is too depressed or too mentally compromised to make a rational choice. But this girl -- if the article is to be relied upon ---is making the choice in full possession of her mental faculties.

I believe this is wrong because God does bestow upon the dying, blessings of insight and grace, remembrance and repentance for past sins, the lessons learned by declining bodily strength, and helplessness, being cast entirely upon dependence upon God: the very things she is determined to avoid.

These can be difficult but soul-transforming experiences. To accept them requires faith. To reject them is faithlessness. She needs our prayers very much: for real, let's pray for her.

Our society is far from wisdom. She has been badly misled.

May this poor girl --- I do feel very sorry for her --- receive the mercy of God.

61 posted on 10/07/2014 8:00:38 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (May the Lord bless you and keep you, may He turn to you His countenance and give you peace.)
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To: FreedomStar3028
To not suffer your final hours and die as He intended, would that not be unforgivable?

If that were so, then God's promise in John 3:16-18 (NIV) would be a lie.

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.
God's Word is either Holy and true or it is a lie. Believers are forgiven for their sins or they are condemned.

All of believers' sins are forgiven but one.

Matthew 12:31-32 NIV - And so I tell you, every kind of sin and slander can be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.

84 posted on 10/07/2014 9:21:47 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: FreedomStar3028

I have issues with both sides of this argument. Some of the right to die people think its OK for mentally ill, and others without a terminal illness to die. Even those who just got diagnosed with a potentially fatal disease that may or may not be curable. On the flip side your argument can be expanded to those with a living will that says pull the plug or people like my father who refused treatment that could have extended his life a few more days if not more, he had no hope, he knew that was it and made his peace with god and died in pain and suffering. Is there truly any difference between refusing medical care that can extend life and taking medicine that can speed up death?


110 posted on 10/07/2014 12:39:27 PM PDT by aft_lizard
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To: FreedomStar3028

Christ also gave up his life freely and chose that suffering for our sakes. A person with such a tumor hasn’t chosen to give up his/her life that way but he/she does have to face the suffering that goes with his/her illness.

A person could look at the financial devastation such a disease would bring to their families and have to make a choice between treatment or non treatment. However, to take a life ending medicine to short circuit the terminal disease phase is problematic for me. I could see a person choosing to let nature take its course and to let God’s will be done and to not be treated; save going with Hospice at the end for pain and comfort needs.

A heavy barbiturate to snuff out life I think should be outlawed.


126 posted on 10/07/2014 3:36:02 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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