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Man killed by cops after car thief alleges meth find
Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 03 Oct 14 | George Mathis

Posted on 10/05/2014 1:25:00 PM PDT by Drew68

A Georgia man was killed by police executing a search warrant obtained after a car thief told police he stole methamphetamine from the dead man’s vehicle, media reports say.

...snip...

The homeowner, David Hooks, a 59-year-old grandfather and businessman, reported the missing SUV.

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An hour after getting the search warrant, Shook said David Hooks’ wife saw camouflaged men in her yard with guns and told her husband.

David Hooks’ final act was to arm himself with a shotgun.

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Police searched the home for 44 hours and found no drugs.

(Excerpt) Read more at newstome.blog.ajc.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; jbt; warondrugs; wod
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To: dragnet2

Of course that’s my first instinct. I’m not saying he did anything wrong. But there are going to be conflicting versions of the same story. There always are. I still can’t believe the cops bought what the car thief was telling them. Whoever made the decision to hit that house should be fired, or worse.


161 posted on 10/06/2014 5:58:08 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: Drew68

I’m not saying he did anything wrong. But there are going to be conflicting versions of the same story. The main issue will be if the cops announced themselves. Or, because he had been victimized in the past, if Hooks believed that they were cops even if he DID hear them announce themsleves. The warrant process should also be explored diligently.


162 posted on 10/06/2014 6:01:04 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: sagar
Also, blame the judge issuing the warrant based on a false lead.

The judges are the problem. No warrant, no raid. Make the JBT knock on the door.

163 posted on 10/06/2014 6:07:01 AM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: sagar

Anyone in my back yard with guns is a trespassing criminal regardless of uniform, or warrant. The ONLY way to serve a warrant should be to knock and ask nicely. Period. Until the jackbooted Nazi thugs that that through their heads there will be shootings. Sadly this many did not do a better job defending his home.

Murder under the color of law should have a HARSHER sentence, not a lesser one.


164 posted on 10/06/2014 6:49:23 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: thefactor
But there are going to be conflicting versions of the same story.

What does the conflicting version say?

165 posted on 10/06/2014 11:00:24 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: thefactor
The main issue will be if the cops announced themselves.

No it isn't. It foes far beyond what the government says here.

The story indicates the dead homeowners wife yelled at her husband that there were people in the yard wearing camouflage and had guns.

Even if they did announce it doesn't mean zip. Did the husband even hear the cops? Was he listening to something using head phones? Could he hear them over his wife who was yelling at him....Was he in a back room at the time and unable to hear? Did dead homeowner grandfather have hearing issues?

Ya see how these violent little commando adventures put on by government can go southbound? Happens all the time, and many folks are getting a belly full of it.

166 posted on 10/06/2014 11:11:18 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Mainly that the cops announced themselves repeatedly. Doesn’t reconcile the fact that the warrant should never have been issued in the first place.


167 posted on 10/06/2014 11:13:46 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: thefactor
Mainly that the cops announced themselves repeatedly

Says who, the cops?

168 posted on 10/06/2014 11:45:58 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: thefactor

“Mainly that the cops announced themselves repeatedly. Doesn’t reconcile the fact that the warrant should never have been issued in the first place.”

Sorry, but events don’t match that claim. And that is just the cop’s claim. First, a lot of these “We identified” events occurred far too fast to allow reaction time. That is the whole point of a raid. “Police! BANG BANG BANG” all inside a second.
Second, this guy was clean as a whistle. We’re talking sitcom life here. As one person pointed out,
What? You think this totally innocent guy suddenly decided to end it all in a blaze of glory, with his family backstopping police rounds, all for nothing?

He had no clue this was cops. That is the only sensible conclusion. And cops have been caught lying about having identified themselves before. A lot of them make it clear that they want to maintain ‘tactical surprise’, so don’t ID themselves. This is the result of that mentality. Confusion and innocent people killed. They wanted him confused and shocked, and they succeeded.


169 posted on 10/06/2014 2:09:35 PM PDT by LevinFan
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To: Drew68

Re: Claire Wolfe’s famous question.

It’s time.


170 posted on 10/06/2014 4:54:39 PM PDT by skepsel (Run on sentences a specialty....)
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To: FBD

Bookmark


171 posted on 10/06/2014 10:41:28 PM PDT by FBD
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To: FBD

I’m hoping this thread gets updated with further developments.


172 posted on 10/07/2014 11:05:36 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: FBD

I’m hoping this thread gets updated with further developments.


173 posted on 10/07/2014 11:06:49 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: sagar
It looks like there was a warrant for the search. Also, the constitution does not mandate a knock on the door to accompany the warrant, so I don’t know why a no knock entry complaint was relevant.

The relevancy is that no knock was unnecessary.

Moral of the story: when cops have warrant for your house search, you cannot brandish weapons. Well, you can, but that would be suicide by cops.

How about turnabout being fair play?


174 posted on 10/07/2014 12:59:11 PM PDT by Robert Teesdale (III% | 4GW)
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