Posted on 10/01/2014 3:45:29 PM PDT by Chgogal
Hundreds of airline passengers were exposed to the Liberian national before he landed in Dallas, last month, as it is revealed that he took at least three flights to get from Monrovia, Liberia to Texas.
Officials announced that Thomas Eric Duncan flew through Brussels to get to Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport - but no airlines operate a direct flight from the European capital to Dallas, meaning he had to take a connecting flight in between.
U.S. officials have refused to release details of his itinerary, including which city he connected through - claiming that none of his fellow passengers are at risk.
Several leading U.S. airlines said on Wednesday they were in close contact with federal health officials about Ebola-related travel.
Airlines for America, the industry trade group, on Wednesday U.S. airlines are in regular contact with the Centers for Disease Control and other government agencies about helping to prevent the spread of Ebola.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
That's just the tip of the iceberg ...
Boston / Philly / New York Ebola cases ? It's be a disaster ... all happening JUST BEFORE the CHRISTMAS SHOPPING Season.
I was thinking more like the first week of November.....
The Black Plague all over again.
Monty Python
Bring out your dead!
A man comes out with a dead-looking old man in a nightshirt slung over his shoulder. He starts to put the old man on the cart.
Man: Here’s one-
Cart-master: Ninepence.
Old Man: (feebly) I’m not dead!
Cart-master: (surprised) What?
Man: Nothing! Here’s your ninepence....
Old Man: I’m not dead!
Cart-master: ‘Ere! ‘E says ‘e’s not dead!
Man: Yes he is.
Old Man: I’m not!
Cart-master: ‘E isn’t?
Man: Well... he will be soon— he’s very ill...
Old Man: I’m getting better!
Man: No you’re not, you’ll be stone dead in a moment.
Cart-master: I can’t take ‘im like that! It’s against regulations!
Old Man: I don’t want to go on the cart....
Man: Oh, don’t be such a baby.
Cart-master: I can’t take ‘im....
Old Man: I feel fine!
Man: Well, do us a favor...
Cart-master: I can’t!
Man: Can you hang around a couple of minutes? He won’t be long...
Cart-master: No, gotta get to Robinson’s, they lost nine today.
Man: Well, when’s your next round?
Cart-master: Thursday.
Old Man: I think I’ll go for a walk....
Man: You’re not fooling anyone, you know—
(to Cart-master) Look, isn’t there something you can do...?
(they both look around)
Old Man: I feel happy! I feel happy!
(the Cart-master deals the old man a swift blow to the head with his wooden spoon. The old man goes limp.)
Man: (throwing the old man onto the cart) Ah. thanks very much.
Cart-master: Not at all. See you on Thursday!
Man: Right! All right....
On another thread, I read that it was earlier like on or around Sept. 2. And he quit his job, but a round trip ticket was purchased and paid for by a company.
All of which brings more questions to mind than answers. And of course, at this point who knows the real answers and truth of the entire affair. We only know what has been reported and what is being alleged that he said, did, or knew.
No way will O-standing by my muzzy bros-bola will shut down anything.
I’d already decided Thanksgiving and Christmas will be very low key here. No shopping. No visiting. Even though that might be playing into the usurper’s game plan.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3210088/posts
The CDC is now admitting, “we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola.”
I don’t fully understand what is meant by “incubation”. Does that mean that the individual germs have to somehow mature before they can pass on to somebody else? Does it mean that’s how long it takes for there to be enough germs in the body fluids to infect somebody else? Does it mean that’s when the germs would come out in ways that people could get it (like sweat, blood, etc)?
I'm not a biologist, but I know the following from popular science. If someone catches one virus (one piece of RNA/DNA inside a shell,) it has to become ten; then those ten become a hundred; and so on. Eventually there are so many viruses attacking cells that the patient's body starts noticing that something is askew.
The rate of replication depends on statistical probabilities of a single virion infecting a cell, then on how long does it take to transform the cell into a factory of new virions, and then how many of them are produced, and then on how many are delivered to new cells for attack and further replication.
So if someone picks up just one virion, it is likely to lay dormant, or to be destroyed. If someone picks up ten, one may survive and infect a cell. Often an infected cell spews thousands, if not millions, new virions. Still it takes a lot of damage to body's cells to make a person sick. It all depends on how much one got infected in the first place; how strong was the army of the virus when it landed. If a sick person bites someone, that may result in the shortest incubation time, as millions of virions get into the blood. If a sick person sneezes, and someone 20 yards away inhales a few droplets, then it will take weeks to get the virus's quantity to the dangerous level.
Consequently, the patient's danger is proportional to concentration of virus in his body. A freshly infected person is hardly contagious at all. A person who is nearly dead (as it was that woman that this Liberian was carrying) is most dangerous, as virus would be coming out in her sweat, in her breath, in her cough, and accumulating on her skin as the sweat evaporates. Normally an intact skin is a good barrier against dangerous microorganisms. However any contact with one's eyes, nose, mouth will transport all that danger directly into the body. (That's why we are told to wash hands.) Also any scratches, cuts, or abrasions are capable of breaking the skin barrier and delivering the dangerous organism into cells, and then into the blood that feeds them.
I got the airline and flight numbers.
Combined General and Maryland “Freak State” PING!
Not gonna post them?
What day was it? I’m wondering how far into the incubation period it was.
“I read elsewhere that he rode in the taxi with the woman that died on Sept 15. The first time he went to the hospital was Sept 24, so its nine days to the severe symptoms. He arrived in Dallas on the Sept 20, so his family should be showing the symptoms about now.”
Isn’t it ac21 day incubation period? if so, he got it around Sept 3. Or earlier. If 4days earlier, he could have been contagious on the plane.
Would viruses be filtered out?
“The Liberian man, IIRC was exposed on the 16th, left on the 19-20th, and symptom sick on the 24. 8 days of incubation. It’s anywhere from 2 to 21 (25?) and the mean being anywhere from 5-13 days.”
Thank you for the details.
So the administration saying there’s no way he was contagious during the flights is just crap.
“I want to know who Duncan is. How did he pay the airfare? What does he do for a living in Liberia? How does he live in Liberia? Does he live in squalor?”
Was his coming here orchestrated? Just like all the illegal ‘children’.
Coward-Pivan works best with chaos and panic.
Allowing flights from countries with epidemics -sheer suicide.
I believe the incubation is 2-21 days with the average being 9 or 10 days.
A nurse (RIP) in Nigeria was dead 11-16 days after exposure to Sawyer.
That’s a lot of variation, so who knows when he was contagious. This administration insisting he was not contagious on the plane sounds even more ludicrous now.
Sounds like a damned fine plan .. I know where to start.
I feel a person is contagious as soon as they are exposed because it only takes 1 to 10 microns (practically nothing) of virus to infect some one else.
A virus does not “grow up”. It just multiplies, so by day 2 there is a higher probability of infecting others and being sick yourself.
he lied on his pre flight check form...
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