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Americans Have a Civic Duty To Vote Intelligently
Townhall.com ^ | October 1, 2014 | Dr Ben Carson

Posted on 10/01/2014 6:25:39 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
Politics isn’t rocket science.

I like that opening statement. I can hear the nattering nabob choir screaming "But what about principles?" now. Incrementalism by leftists has taken us from the republic we were to where we are now and incrementalism by conservatives voting republican can get us back.

PS. I'm behind the same enemy lines that you are. Sigh....

21 posted on 10/01/2014 7:10:27 AM PDT by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: Rockitz

Thanks. I was Poli Sci major in college, so I can categorically state it isn’t rocket science. Unfortunately the major seems to attract the dumbest and among the faculty the most radical left wingers imaginable.


22 posted on 10/01/2014 7:16:35 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Kaslin

Who does Beyoncé say I should vote for?


23 posted on 10/01/2014 7:18:42 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
Thank you for that. But keep in mind George Washington said that a time when only male property owners were permitted to vote in federal elections.

The dangers Washington warned of are intrinsic to human nature. I'm skeptical of any assertion that something has changed in the last 200 years that renders those observations no longer operative.

I find the idea that human nature can be changed by political forces to be not only wrong, but downright dangerous.

24 posted on 10/01/2014 7:19:22 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Unfortunately half of the voters will vote for a DemcoRat.

Virtually all of the voters will vote for a Republocrat ... or a Demoblican ...

25 posted on 10/01/2014 7:21:45 AM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: Kaslin

Good luck! That has never been the case throughout history. The only really intelligent vote for President was for the first, George Washington.

The founders were right in wanting only educated owners of property to vote.


26 posted on 10/01/2014 7:25:11 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: tacticalogic

You’re right. Human nature does not change very much.

The politics of gimme gimme gimme has been around since at least the time of ancient Rome when politicians, generals, and emperors were compelled to keep peace among urban masses by doling out grain and free entertainment.


27 posted on 10/01/2014 7:25:15 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

It’s also what I was referring to in my long time tagline.


28 posted on 10/01/2014 7:26:46 AM PDT by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Americans Have a Civic Duty To Vote Intelligently

There is one catch so, one of the precursors for voting intelligently is missing, as at least halve the voter are missing the intelligence to do so.


29 posted on 10/01/2014 7:36:32 AM PDT by saintgermaine
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To: Kaslin

LOL. Ha ha ha.
Considering maybe 30% of the population has an IQ under 90, and 80% of the rest are thoroughly indoctrinated by media and public schools, that leaves most of the population unable to vote intelligently.

There is a reason the founding fathers originally only had white male property owners with the right to vote. At the time, that was the best way to ensure that most of the people voting were voting intelligently and knew their civic duty.

remember “As early as 1680, the literacy rate in Massachusetts was 98 percent and in seaports was as high as 99 percent. Among women the percentage was 62 percent for the same general period, according to historian Samuel Eliot Morison.”

ebonic response - whut u be talkin bout u racist crakaz


30 posted on 10/01/2014 7:46:04 AM PDT by Prophet2520
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To: Kaslin
There was a time, in America, when ordinary citizens were knowledgeable about their "natural," or "Creator-endowed" rights and the limited role their elected representatives, under a "People's" Constitution, were to play in preserving those rights.

Alexis de Tocqueville visited the American wilderness of the 1830's, and he described the backwoods citizens of that day in the following manner:

"It cannot be doubted that in the United States the instruction of the people powerfully contributes to the support of the democratic republic; and such must always be the case, I believe, where the instruction which enlightens the understanding is not separated from the moral education ...." The American citizen, he said, "..will inform you what his rights are and by what means he exercises them .. In the United States, politics are the end and aim of education ... every citizen receives the elementary notions of human knowledge; he is taught, moreover, the doctrines and the evidences of his religion, the history of his country, and the leading features of its Constitution .... it is extremely rare to find a man imperfectly acquainted with all these things, and a person wholly ignorant of them is a sort of phenomenon .... It is difficult to imagine the incredible rapidity with which thought circulates in the midst of these deserts [wilderness]. I do not think that so much intellectual activity exists in the most enlightened and populous districts of France." - Tocqueville


31 posted on 10/01/2014 8:00:01 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: Kaslin
Dear Ben:


             

Careful what ya wish for.

cheers,
tk

32 posted on 10/01/2014 8:03:57 AM PDT by tomkat (:^)
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To: Kaslin

that’s asking a lot out of the general voting population


33 posted on 10/01/2014 8:13:28 AM PDT by 12th_Monkey (One man one vote is a big fail, when the "one" man is an idiot.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I definitely sense that Dr Carson is wrong.

The title should be “All Americans should not have the right to vote.”

We disqualify children, we disqualify convicts, and we disqualify those not yet citizens.

Just one idea on the subject: Excepting actual retirement social security and those drawing paychecks or retirement from jobs in the government, we should not give a vote to those whose checks from the government exceed their income taxes paid. (At a local level, those who do not pay property tax, for example, shouldn’t be eligible to vote on those items for which property tax pays. And claiming ‘property tax’ is included in rent is not a valid argument.)


34 posted on 10/01/2014 8:34:05 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Vaquero
So you recommend I get a divorce ? The spouse of 30+ years still votes pro Union thug as she learned on her fathers knee.

No, do not do that.

I have a good friend since hs who is of the other persuasion. We talk about all things but politics. He is a smart guy and a plant manager. I just do not understand and accept. A lot of the music people I associate with are libs, but we don't ever talk politics. When we are in a discussion and my associates press the political buttons, I have to say something in defense of rationality.

You are not going to solve the worlds problems by arguing with you spouse, or your friends.

35 posted on 10/01/2014 8:55:54 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: xzins

Hard to argue with that!


36 posted on 10/01/2014 10:36:10 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Kaslin

Agreed. I know plenty of Libs around here who fit that bill. And yet, they blithely trip along in their lives, while no real DAMAGE seems to have come to them, due to their foolish choices.

In my state, they’re all consumed now with unseating Governor Scott Walker:

“Back To the Abyss with Burke!”


37 posted on 10/01/2014 10:43:39 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: grania
How about blaming Romney for losing?

*blank stare*

Why do something so obviously correct when you can continue shooting your allies four years later, and right before another key election?

38 posted on 10/01/2014 11:00:15 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter
Why do something so obviously correct when you can continue shooting your allies four years later, and right before another key election?

To whom are you referring? I see the RINO elitist ptb as the problem. If they (including Romney)tried as hard to defeat dems as they did to defeat conservatives, they'd win. It would involve giving constitutional conservatives a seat at the table.

39 posted on 10/01/2014 11:18:51 AM PDT by grania
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To: grania
Agree.

The bile directed by some at conservatives over the 2008 election amazes me to this day. Especially considering that the GOPe has spent much of the interim insulting and joining the other party in abusing them.

Besides, claiming those who vote their conscious are stupid immediately before a key election when their enthusiastic support is essential is itself idiocy defined.

40 posted on 10/01/2014 11:29:06 AM PDT by skeeter
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