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To: mdmathis6

As long as you love being patronized in return, my child, I see nothing necessarily wrong with it.
On the other hand, it is a degradation from normal adult conversation, a form of insult, a mocking (now there’s a word I seem to recall...) and therefore usually counterproductive, to be avoided, when possible.
So I try my best never to be the first to use such talk.

As for your now repeated suggestion, I’ve never felt a desire to teach children, only adults whose postings appear er, ahem... mis - educated and confused. .. ;-)


70 posted on 10/01/2014 11:15:26 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective..)
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To: BroJoeK; reasonisfaith

I don’t know if one can really teach adults until they’ve has some experience with teaching little ones.

“In Him we live and move and HAVE our Being!” so says Paul

You need to think BIGGER! Love DEEPER! If you want to begin to understand what was made deliberately untestable to the wise of this world...study children.

“To the Jews he(Christ) is a stumbling block...to the Greeks(the wise scientists of the day) he is foolishness!” I’m not trying to be patronizing here...Christ has said that only a child like faith can begin to unlock the untestable truths that can’t be measured in a lab...only to discover that these truths were there all the time...just under our noses.

Where Reason untempered by Morality can take us

1. Why Reason can never be Biased
CS Lewis in his allegory ‘Pilgrim’s Regress” envisioned Reason as a forever virgin never prostituting her self with biased colorations of the process of logic. She could lead a person by cold reason to a place they didn’t want to go while forcing those of differing opinions to confront their own illogical thinking; but she would not determine for them whether it would be right or wrong for them to proceed down a chosen path. She had no opinions of the morality of the choices to made, to have such would sully her virginity with bias. The hero of the book asked in despair then how he could know the rightness of the path he faced...Reason said a curious thing;she could not help him to decide between the paths he must take but that she had 3 cousins who can guide him in search...he was to seek out Faith Hope and Charity and they would guide him in ways by Reason she could never consider!

To believe or not to believe a thing, a human considers evidence if he has some reasoning wisdom but a human if he is human must sometimes confront his own emotional doubt,his own pride and his own selfishness despite what his eyes see. Humans because they are emotional, spiritual, as well as having some abilities to think with dispassionate reason can never fully be the steel trap computers some scientists wish they could be.

2. The Eugenecist
It might be logical to some to kill 6.5 billion folks to get down to a more “rational”( the numbers determined with a bit of pre-biased assumptions I fear) number of 500 million but as we also as a species do think morally and spiritually, selfishly as well as logically a survival instinct kicks in for some and others compassionate urge.

“You first” we might proclaim to the Eugenicist who, if he is truly honest in REASONING with himself must ask himself...”why not me first, what is it about me that must survive with the remaining 499,999,999 and not some other... say,a starving Ethiopian girl with a beautiful singing voice!”

The Eugenicist may have concocted a coldly logical, mathematically elegant population reduction treatise supported by tested data and unbeatable hypotheses regarding the need for such a population reduction...ruthless in it’s conclusions but logical. Yet he may never had considered the trap he has set for himself that his logical reasoning had brought him to.

So the policies are enacted, the numbers are run, and the Eugenicist discovers himself to be on the list to be killed...picked by a coldly reasoning computer...”why me and not that starving Ethiopian girl with the good singing voice?” cries the Eugenecist in despair as he sees the guns raised....”I wrote your program why would you have me killed?...why I am practically your father!”

The computer whirs and the answer appears as the trigger hammers fall upon the bullet rims

“1. The girl in question will be fed because she is needed to help maintain racial balance. Her artistic talents are needed to enhance and preserve the artistic heritage of third world cultures.

2. You are not the father of this unit, this unit functions as programmed, your statement is illogical!

3. It has been determined that your death, which will be described by the World Government as a heroic self sacrifice, will help inspire others to accept their own deaths as necessary to preserve the Earth as Mother and to help keep the Earth in perpetual balance per the Georgia Guide Stone protocols that you programmed into the memory banks. As humans have an observable but unexplainable need to worship that which is higher than themselves this impulse will be utilized...you shall be as a God to future generations...Hail Neo Malthus! As for this unit, as programmed by the World government, you are a means to an end!”

The shots are then fired and the sun sets as the first body among billions of bodies are fed into the bio reclamation units!


71 posted on 10/01/2014 4:27:29 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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